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True. But MAB at least produced some good stories (while pluindering the Bill Bell legagcy and gave the show its sounds and look back) whereas LML was a nverending Towering Inferno for me.

But LML didn't do any damage that a skilled HW couldn't fix. Let's take a look at MAB's track record:

- Retconning Jill and Cane's parentage 57 thousand times

- Killing off perfectly good characters, including young characters like Colleen, Jana and Ricky, who could have lead the show into the next generation

- Further ruination of Sheila's back story, making it damn near impossible for Sheila to ever return

- Screwing up the timeline with ridiculous SORASing (Abby being 21 while Kyle was only 10? PUH-LEASE!)

All of those things (save for maybe the Abby/Kyle thing) are almost irreversible. The only major deaths under LML were John, Sheila and Dru (and the latter two could easily have been reversed).

And let's not even touch some of the other things MAB allegedly wanted to do (killing Lily from cancer around the same time Colleen died; killing Sharon in another murder mystery).

id rather run thru on coming traffic then watch any of the LML era by far the worst head writer/executive producer in daytime history.

Oh no, that honor belongs to MAB.

Just came across this article. It's pretty old, but an interesting take on the LML years.

http://brightlightsfilm.com/71/71soaps_chow.php

Next he praises Rachel Kimsey as Mac, saying how she had become the character and worked really well with J.T.

I agree, except she was much more suited to Kevin than J.T.

About Ashley, I like ED and the character but only Bill Bell and Kay Alden were really able to give her good storylines. Other writers unfortunately didn't get her.

Brad Bell did a pretty good job at B&B.

I don't understand why they did not just recast Colleen, Raul, Billy, and Mac to keep that younger set intact and in perspective to the rest of the show.

They tried, kind of. They recast Billy with Ryan Brown and he flopped, as did Scott Seymour. They seem to have found a keeper with Billy Miller. None of the Mackenzie recasts were well received by fans (though I personally loved Rachel Kimsey). Colleen had two reasonably well received (yet horribly written) recasts before MAB, in her infinite wisdom, decided to kill her off.

Lauren Woodland played Brittany Hodges from 2000-2005.

I know who she was, I'm just surprised Braeden had issues with her.

Braeden (like many in the cast) wasn't that fond of Brenda.

Dickson or Epperson?

He's also had minor problems with MTS, Sharon Case & Lauren Woodland but usually he gets along very well with most actresses.

Lauren Woodland???

Making SORASed Abby more Newman than Carlton made Brad too irrelevant a character for Y&R to bother giving Diamont an open exit.

Changing her name from Carlton to Newman overnight was insulting.

Doug Davidson will be in a similar position (as a character) once the Jamie story ends.

Honestly, I think Doug Davidson is safe. I think TPTB finally 'get it' about the veterans being Y&R's bread and butter. I believe the hemoraging of vets has stopped.

She had a LOT of help from [...] LML.

I don't think LML can be faulted for MAB's dismantling of the show. Her tenure was destructive, yes, but MAB did everything she could to erase the LML era from memory. It's not like MAB continued the reliquary/senate race/Pheila crap. She basically restored the show after LML and then proceeded to destroy it all over again (much more severely) in her own way.

MAB should be consigned to soap hell for writing off Ashley and killing Brad and Colleen. It is unforgivable.

The Ashley thing was bad and the Colleen thing was atrocious (it was MAB's official jump-the-shark moment for many viewers), but killing Brad is one thing I can't fault MAB for. Sony said she had to cut either Brad or Paul, and (for once) she made the right decision. Plus, it ended up benefiting B&B massively in the long-run.

2004 was awesome.

To this day I always thought Billy Abbott could have been Victor's.

I hope not, considering he's been schtupping Victor's daughter for the last 3 years.

B&B's score is available on iTunes as well.

I also remember how brilliantly the scene where Veronica shot Nikki was executed. The use of music and lighting made it by far the creepiest thing I've ever seen on a soap.

How liked/sympathized with was Veronica/Sarah to the audience back in 1997-1998? Did they like the character/actress? Was she liked as a psycho?

I adored her.

That's one story I'm glad MAB didn't "revisit".

Those 2004 clips make me miss Jack Smith.

How was B&B able to keep Sheila on for as long as they did, given the crimes she committed on Y&R?

I'm partial to Susan Walters' more youthful take on Diane. But neither of those actresses deserved to be replaced by... that.

I miss RealDiane (both of them).

The Hope and Victor scene here is so beautiful, and tender, and vulnerable. Never would anyone at Y&R today allow this for Victor.

Least of all Braeden. This was back in the day when he didn't get to dictate story.

Susan Walters' Diane.

For Days its strangely commonplace but for Y&R it is a little odd. I guess last year's temp casting of Jeffery with Kin Shriner is the only other example I can think of.

There was also Andrea Evans (Patty, 1983-84/Tawny, 2010), John McCook (Lance, 1976-80/Eric, 2005) and Katherine Kelly Lang (Gretchen, 1981/Brooke, 1998 and 2007).

My apologies if these have already been mentioned.

Amelia Heinle as Mackenzie Browning

Rachel Kimsey as Victoria Newman

Kim Matula as Daisy Carter

Gina Tognoni as Victoria Newman

Donna Mills as Gloria Abbott

Ilene Kristen as Gloria Abbott

Erin Hershey Presley as Bridget Forrester

Erin Hershey Presley as Donna Logan

Constance Towers as Pamela Douglas

Gina Tognoni as Agnes Jones

Martha Madison as Agnes Jones

Tamara Braun as Agnes Jones

I liked Bashioum but Rachel Kimsey will always be 'my' Mackenzie. It never bothered me that her Mac was such a departure from the previous incarnations.

Kruger was horrendous, as was Clementine Ford.