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  1. 6 hours ago, ranger1rg said:

    I rolled my eyes the other day when Spinelli and Sonny had a scene and we had to live through the "Mr. Corinthos" dialogue as Spinelli deferred like Sonny was royalty. Sonny is a legend and a god? No.

    Watching that scene, it felt like Spinelli and Sonny's relationship had regressed.  It was like the show was ignoring a good part of the progress they have made, all so that they could give a quick history lesson in advance of Jason's return.

    Sonny had long since made peace with Spinelli and his oddities.  He sought out his help, independent of their shared connection through Jason.  He even counseled Spinelli at times, also independent of Jason.  And Spinelli was far more at ease around Sonny.  He reached a point where he felt he could approach him without fear.  He no longer called him "Mr. Sir" and I thought he even called him Sonny at times (although I could be wrong about that last part).

    I also would like to point out how incorrect it was for Carly to say that Bobbie "knew not to chase revenge.  My mom never gave in to her worse impulses, she rose above them."  That wasn't always true.  Bobbie gave in to her worst impulses on many occasions.    

  2. I have looked through this entire thread to see if anyone else noticed something that was said by Nina to Ava.  Apparently, nobody thought it was worth discussing that Nina told Ava to be there for Sonny, or something to that effect.

    That would be taking the forgiveness he has given her to a whole new level.  At the end of the day, she is still the one who is responsible for Morgan's death.  And she killed Connie/Kate in cold blood.  I don't think she can ever be someone who is "there for Sonny."

  3. 2 hours ago, Aragorn said:

    Spencer handed Ace to Nikolas and he took off. He is now an accessory to a kidnapping. How is he to explain what he just did without being arrested? Will he flee town to avoid being arrested, and then reunite with Trina in Paris?

    I think this will be the first part of the "redemption of Nikolas."  My guess is that he will quickly return with Ace and say that he was just taking him out for some fresh air.  Nikolas will realize--having had a few seconds to think about it--that Spencer will get arrested if Ace disappears.  Then he will finally do right by his son and protect him the way a father should.

    After all that, Nikolas will either turn himself in to the police or persuade Esme to allow him to quietly leave town.  

  4. 1 hour ago, Vee said:

    It's been a long time since JFP and Guza just dismissed any offscreen deaths. This team did decent memorials for Sonya Eddy/Epiphany and others in recent years. I wasn't surprised they went for it with Jackie. I'm not thrilled with the current level of flashbacks or returns, but I will give them Day 2 to impress me more as this is supposedly a 2-episode event.

    I think GH did well with Epiphany/SE. I also thought the memorials for Gail Brown, Peter Hansen and John Reilly were decent, even if the plotlines surrounding them (a mini-WSB caper, Gail's treasure hunt, etc) were goofy. With Sean it was a labor of love built around Reilly's IRL daughter as Sean's daughter, and it was sweet.

    Didn't they show a supposed Finn flashback for Epiphany that was actually a scene she had with Silas?

  5. On 7/8/2023 at 7:25 PM, Liberty City said:
    • I'm all for Hayden returning for two-weeks to usher Finn & Violet out of town with her and Gregory dying out.  But, for me, Chase can stay.

    The cuts I would make, myself:

     

            Esme: The character is D.O.A.  She's run her time, and she can exit stage left when Spencer is              ultimately written out.

    I would love to reunite Hayden with Violet.  It was disgusting how they brought her back, sent her away, and acted like it wasn't that big of a deal for Violet.  The purpose was to further prop up Fin/Michael Easton by giving him a daughter and a single dad identity.  Violet should be with her mom.

    I love Esme.  She really has become one of my favorite characters.  It has been enjoyable to watch her trying to be a better person, with mixed results.  

    I hope the show keeps her around and redeems her, at least partially.  Maybe she can have a long transition, like Maxie did, or Rachel Davis on AW.   I know she has done terrible things, but I think she is more redeemable than Franco or Liesl were. 

    There just seems to be a lot to her backstory that is worth exploring.   

     

  6. On 7/10/2023 at 10:28 PM, Toups said:

    OMG, Ivy in the wheelchair.  LOL!  I totally forgot about that. Thanks for posting that. I haven't really rewatched a lot of Passions since it aired.  Just watching some of those clips makes me really miss the show, especially its wacky humour.  You really need phenomenal actors like Ben Masters, Andrea Evans, Kim Ulrich, Juliet Mills, and Kathleen Noone to pull it off.   Sunset Beach, Passions, Gary Tomlin's OLTL - I miss the hilarious insanity of those shows.  

    You would have loved Santa Barbara.

    I have actually rewatched some old Passions episodes recently.  I like watching old scenes of Kay, whether played by Taylor Anne Mountz, Deanna Wright or Heidi Mueller.  Deanna was my favorite, but they were all good.  

    You might remember that I always loved Andrea Evans.  She was such a good actress.  I was sad to hear of her passing.  

    How have you been, Toups?

     

  7. 17 hours ago, Toups said:

    "It had to be you."  Ryan's last words to Mac.   I'm glad it was someone who has a long history with Ryan being the one to kill Ryan for good.  And then Felicia/Kevin's final scene with Ryan was great too.  That should've been the last scene of the episode instead of Esme/Spencer.  I'm going to miss Ryan because he was always fun to watch and made the show very interesting.  I was hoping we'd get more Esme/Ryan/Heather family scenes, but nope.  :(   I can see Esme going after Ava/Felicia/Mac once she regains her memory. 

    Hey Toups!!

    I totally agree.  I absolutely loved that last line from Ryan.  It was nice to have Mac's role as Ryan's great archrival recognized, along with the scene where Felicia put her arms around Kevin.  In recent years GH has downplayed the importance of downgraded characters to major storylines involving their longtime friends and rivals.  

    Remember when Jerry Jax came back and went years without having a scene with Bobby?  Or how Brenda had one lousy scene with Ned when she returned in 2002?  I am glad that GH did a decent job of keeping Felicia in Ryan's story, even as they updated it to put the focus on Ava.  But Mac hasn't been as involved as I would have liked.  It is great that he is the one who finally killed Ryan.  

    Is there any doubt that Jason would have been the one to finish him off if Steve Burton was still on the show?

  8. 8 hours ago, SteelCity said:

    The problem is that viewers can't be happy! They get new characters and they're "forced" but then they're tired of the same characters. I personally am all for character rotation and with the nature of soaps, new characters are ALWAYS needed. Some work, some don't, but things get really tired when characters aren't given a rest. Even when a new character comes along that works, people get mad, TPTB hear that (of all things) and the new character is unceremoniously cast off so that the show returns to it's repetitive tired status quo. SHOWS NEED CHANGE! 

    I agree that shows need new characters.  The problem with the Rappaports was the extent to which they were thrust into the center of everything.  A OLTL fan said to me back in the early 2000s "Sam Rappaport was a breath of fresh air...until he was on 5 days a week."   

  9. 37 minutes ago, janea4old said:

    In my personal opinion, Victoria is the mother.  Chelsea is (for all reasons that matter) the surrogate.  It wasn't set up that way legally, but that's what the reality was for many years.

    Yes of course they should have told Johnny that he was conceived via another woman than Victoria, but I think the hesitancy in telling him was "how do you tell your child he was conceived via rape".
    But yeah better for them to have told him when he was younger so he doesn't hear it from anyone else.  But still, how do you find the words?

    I guess the show should (at least) have had scenes where Victoria and Billy discussed when/how to do this.

    Another factor is that the pandemic stopped children from appearing on any of the soaps for a long while, and children have rarely appeared in the the past year.

    Now that Y&R has committed to this storyline, Johnny has just been SORASed somewhat, with the new actor debuting in Sept. 2022.  He was previously played by younger twins.
    Spoiler thread about the recast:
    https://boards.soapoperanetwork.com/topic/61466-yr-casting-call-for-a-teen-boy/

    Chelsea cannot legitimately be called a surrogate IMO.  She is the birth mother.  That is not the same thing, and I don't think it is OK to call a biological mother nothing but a surrogate.  They are more than just vessels to bear a child.  Humanity has a very dark history of dismissing women as "just a surrogate."

    As I understand it, she broke down an cried after signing the adoption papers.  That means that she probably didn't want to do it, and was made to feel that it was the only right thing to do.  She was not looking to relinquish her child, but was persuaded that she had to.  To me, that is an adoption that never should have happened. 

    Regardless, she was promised an open adoption.  Billy and Victoria lied to her.  They closed the adoption, shut her out completely, and treated her expressions of love for her child with utter contempt.  Billy has even indicated that he plans on coercing Johnny for his entire life not to have a relationship with his natural mother.  In my mind, that makes them people who have no business adopting a child.

  10. 1 minute ago, janea4old said:

    Chelsea was a con artist hired by Victor to waylay Billy in a foreign country.  Chelsea raped Billy via a substance thing, and that's how Johnny was conceived.  There was no affection involved.  
    Pregnant Chelsea and her mother Anita came to Genoa City to con the couple Billy and Victoria, and to get them to pay her for the baby.  I could go on but it gets me really angry, so I'll stop there.

    My understanding is that Chelsea, regardless of her initial intentions, turned down $10M from Victor to leave town, after the baby was adopted, and that she did not, ultimately, sell the baby.  

    Regardless, she was promised, if I understantd correctly, an open adoption.  And it is wrong for Billy and Victoria to be denying Johnny the right to know where he came from, or any relationship at all with his natural mother.  In fact, didn't Billy say (a couple years ago) that he didn't want them to ever have a relationship, meaning at any point in his son's life?  So when Johnny is an adult, will he be shamed if he wants to know her?  That makes Billy and Victoria lousy adoptive parents.

  11. I have never watched a whole episode of Y&R in my life.  But for the first time I have an opinion about something that happened on the show.

    The adoption of Johnny seems like it was pretty disgusting.  They promised her an open adoption and that Johnny would know where he came from.  Instead, they don't give her a single visit, treat her with contempt for daring to ask to see him, and still haven't told the poor kid that he is adopted by Victoria.

    I also think it is terrible that there was a prenatal termination of parental rights (TPR) agreement.  No woman should ever be asked to sign something at the point, before she has met her child.  A situation like that is ripe for coercion.

    I don't watch the show, but that is what it sounds like to me.  Can any long-time viewers offer some thoughts?

     

  12. On 8/15/2022 at 5:20 PM, Darn said:

    Any longtime fan of the show didn't like it because we saw Jessica's childhood. We also saw Jessica as a teenager and she didn't act like that. The whole story was stupid and damaging to Jessica, Viki and Clint as characters.

    Wait, are you talking about the DID story?  It sounds like you may be referring to something else. 

    In early 2010 Jessica was given electroconvulsive therapy (ECT) by Mitch Laurence.  That, along with a gunshot and an attempted rape, caused her to block out the previous 13 years of her life.  She regressed to being a teenager and thought she was in her senior year of high school. 

    Many long-time viewers commented that teenage Jessica acted nothing like the way she was written during this storyline.  Adult-teen Jessica was immature and goofy.  Actual teen Jessica was mature beyond her years.  The part I hated the most was her indifference to her daughter Bree, aside from being loving, as well as level-headed, during their first meeting.  It seemed like RC didn't feel he could write the story he wanted for Jess/Christian/Layla without turning her into a bratty teen, who was not the least bit interested in motherhood.  

  13. On 5/17/2022 at 5:34 PM, Tonksadora said:

    Thank you. I think of Wendy Riche & think in bullet points: Claire Labine, 5 yrs of Emmys, Robin & Stone, NB, Monica's cancer, Mary Mae Ward family, and so on. I don't think of the ones you've listed. Well even a well-wound clock can lose time. You say all this & my brain says, you know, nudge nudge, Miranda, Katherine Bell, Stefan shoots Katherine Bell as a prelude to romance, and so on.

    What does NB refer to?

    I believe it may have been Wendy Riche's decision to recast Edward Quartermaine, after longtime portrayer, David Lewis, retired.  I am not so sure that went without saying at the time.  But it was an unbelievably successful recast.

    Claire Labine liked to write socially conscious stories like Stone having AIDS, Monica having cancer, and BJ donating her heart to Maxie.  Ned and Lois provided the fun times and comedy.

  14. I wonder if Felicia could somehow be Esme's mother.  Obviously, it wouldn't be believable that she slept with Ryan, even if she knew he was alive.  That would be an even bigger stretch than Anna/Faison, which was absurd.  But there was a period back in 2006 and 2007 when she disappeared from the canvas, and when she came back for Georgie's funeral, we were told she was doing a WSB assignment.  She was with Frisco, there was a situation that was described as "touch and go" and "rapidly deteriorating."  And they had to maintain radio silence, since they didn't know who they could trust. 

    Maybe at some point she was briefly captured by someone, had her eggs retrieved, and her memories of the procedure wiped, either through hypnosis or drugs.  Then Ryan could have "donated" the fertilized eggs to Esme's adoptive parents.  They might be temporarily leaving out that Esme's adoptive mother is also the women who carried her.  Or maybe she was carried by a surrogate, and then adopted. 

    Actually, it would be pretty cool if Esme's surrogate was Claudette.  That would make her and Charlotte womb sisters.  And Esme comes across like someone who grew up in Montreal.

    Finally, speaking of Felicia's family, this courtship between Maxie and Austin is so unenjoyable.  They are never going to be a successful pairing.  The last time I felt a pairing was this forced was in 2001.  JFP decided that Jensen Buchanan and Robert Kelker-Kelley just had to be together.  Actually, she first decided that on Another Word, and it was a total disaster.  But Jill felt the need to try again, so we were told that Nurse Melissa and back-from-the-dead Stavros had some sort of connection, even including her in his hallucinations/daydreams.

    At some point they will probably just give up on Austin, bring back Todd, and put him in a story with Carly.  

  15. I am betting that Tiffany Rizczech is an alias.  I think Gwen's mother's real name was Kristina Andropolous.  Jack had a mini-affair with her when he was engaged to Melissa, Jennifer's cousin.  Kristina was Victor's pseudo goddaughter.  Gwen's mom may have lied about the timeline of when she met Jack, like she appears to have lied about other things.

     

    Maybe it was Victor who was paying her off.  I am not sure why.  But it actually was Victor who banished Kristina Andropolous from Salem.

     

    Interestingly, Kristina was played by Chelsea Noble, Kirk Cameron's wife.  She played Kate on Growing Pains, an infinitely inferior and less popular character than Julie, who the audience loved, but was played by an actress that Kirk Cameron hated because she posed in Playboy.  So he had her fired.  

     

    Kristina Andropolousis | Days of our Lives Wiki | Fandom

  16. The inscription on watch that make's Sonny think his name is Mike--which I guess it technically is--says "Mike, never enough time, Love A."  The letter A refers to Adelle, Sonny's mother, and Mike's ex-wife.  But Sonny/Mike doesn't know that, obviously.  I am really starting to think that Alexis--whose name also begins with the letter A--will discover him and she will tell him that they are married.  I think Alexis will decide to start her life over with an amnesiac Sonny, who is free from the mob.  We could see them living as a married couple, away from Port Charles, for 6 months.

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