Angela

About 10 commercials from DAYS 1994 season compiled from YouTube. I forgot how hot Jonah was (that was his name right?)

Add me in. I was a magazine buying addict back then but I erased all those articles out of my memory.

ON LOCATION 'Days of Our Lives' Dazzles New Orleansby Andrea Payne
Despite blistering heat, thousands of fans stood for hours to watch 'DAYS' live taping

 

Traffic to the New Orleans airport is backed up for almost an hour. I sit sweltering in 90 degree heat in an airport limousine with a driver who mutters that he hasn't seen such a major tie-up in a long time. When we finally make it into the terminal, we crane our necks for a peek at the car whose breakdown has caused us so much suffering. But there isn't any such car. Instead, there is a huge crowd gathered at one end of the airport. "Maybe the fans who came to see the 'Days of Our Lives' soap opera stars caused the delay," I speculate. "Naw," he replies with authority. "They've probably already removed the disabled vehicle. A bunch of soap stars wouldn't cause all this mess." Later, however, I speak to another limousine driver who confirms my guess.

 

The airport is a mass movement of bodies, ranging from infants to senior citizens, waiting to see Bo and Hope. Six thousand people cram themselves into the tiny area where Peter Reckell, Kristian Alfonso, Frances Reid (Alice Horton) and Stanley Brock (Howie Hoffsteder) are expected to walk by. People faint and harried airport officials do their best to get them help while trying to keep order. The job is a tough one. As one noticeably relieved official puts it after the crowd has dispersed, "The second coming of Christ wouldn't have drawn this kind of crowd."

 

Placards bearing messages such as "Down with Larry Welch" are waved with fervor. Some people have been lining up since noon for the cast's 2:30 arrival. It is now past three and the crowd is a bit annoyed. "We want Hope," they chant. Any minute now there's going to be a riot, I think, feeling slightly panicky. Suddenly, there is a tremendous roar. For the next few seconds it is pandemonium as flashbulbs go off and people reach to the bottom of their lungs for ear shattering noises to express their love for one of soapdom's favorite couples - Bo Brady and Hope Welch. Then just as abruptly as the screaming began, the noise stops and people walk away, with most not having seen anything besides other fans. But they are satisfied. "Just the thrill of knowing I was near him is enough," coos one woman.

 

This is what happened the afternoon 'Days of Our Lives' came to New Orleans to shoot segments of the show. And they came, says Executive Producer Al Rabin, because of the World's Fair, the Mississippi River, Bourbon Street and Jackson Square. "I don't know any other city that has all these things."

 

Watching the six o'clock news that night I am comforted to know that I wasn't the only one who was a bit disconcerted by the overwhelming display of affection. The camera shows a somewhat tense Kristian Alfonso clinging to Peter Reckell with a strained smile on her face. Later, Kristian admits that she was a bit frightened by the response. Frances Reid is bewildered. "I was a little stunned," she later confesses. "I associate that kind of reaction with rock stars."

 

If I use the word "bewildered" often, that's because just about everyone was, well, bewildered. At the airport, at the World's Fair, in the French Quarter and at 6 o'clock one morning when the sleepy looking cast and crew trooped out of a bus after an almost two hour ride, only to see carloads of animated fans pulling up behind them. One of the reasons given for the enormous turnout was that the show's presence in New Orleans had been part of a media promotional campaign for two weeks prior to their arrival. But while that explains how the fans knew where to seek their heroes, it doesn't explain why they stayed and stayed and stayed. At the World's Fair, Natasha Ennis, a security guard somewhat astonished by the thousands of people, comments, "This didn't happen when Bob Hope, Brooke Shields and Mr. T were here. People watched them for a while and then went on their way. I've never seen anything like it."

Day one

of shooting begins at the pier where the Natchez Riverboat is docked. There are only a tiny cluster of reporters at the site along with passengers on board for the ride to the World's Fair. It is only 8:00 a.m. and this fact causes me concern because it already feels like 90 degrees with 100% humidity. However, while some of us observers are noticeably wilted after a couple of hours, at 8:00 that evening when shooting wraps, Kristian and Peter, who have been running, coping with fans and generally putting in a hard day's work, look refreshed. "This has been an extremely easy day," Kristian chirps.

 

Shooting on the riverboat goes off without a hitch. About 50 interested passengers smile as Stanley Brock, doing his thing as the irrepressible Howie Hoffstedder, romances a delectable looking blonde. After several rehearsals, they begin taping, then a voice stops the action. "Hit him again," the makeup man is told. He dabs delicately at Stanley's forehead and mouth. Stanley proceeds with scene. "I love blonde hair and those eyes are so cute," he flirts.

 

When we land at the World's Fair, there are almost 500 fans yelling for Bo and Hope. Taking center stage, Al announces, "You have two choices: You can have Bo and Hope together, or you can have Hope and Larry together." Almost on cue the crowd screams, "No!" Smiling, Rabin continues. "If you help us out, it's Bo and Hope. If you don't, it's Hope and Larry." Then, one by one the actors are brought out and they each make a personal plea for help. While the fans are crazy over Frances and Stanley, Peter and Kristian get the loudest cheers. As Peter and Kristian answer questions, people blow kisses. Much to the fans extreme pleasure, Kristian and Peter accommodate their request by kissing passionately. Cameras click ferociously, then Al steps forward, asking them to please turn around and go. For the most part, the crowd does as asked. The cast and some crew members are whisked off for lunch in small carts, leaving behind some bewildered security guards.

 

After lunch, 3,000 fans line the route where 'Days' stages a parade as part of Bo Brady's escape from the bad guys. The story that day and the next revolves around Bo, Hope, Alice and Howie trying to outwit Maxwell Hathaway and his henchmen after having stolen a valuable prism from Maxwell's sculpture. As Rabin says "There is all this chasing around for two days so we can do a romantic show at Oak Alley Plantation on Friday. After all, that's what soap opera is all about." It takes hours before the parade begins. But the fans stick it out under the hot hot sun and under skies that threaten rain. "I've chased them since yesterday and I've been here for two hours and as long as they are filming that's how long I'm going to be here," Pat Matherne says defiantly. Explaining her presence, Rebecca Yoes offers, "Nothing can stop Bo and Hope's love. They are going to keep fighting until they have each other and when they apart, they are miserable."

 

Once again Al Rabin is before the crowd, bullhorn in hand. He outlines what is about to be shot and gives a pet talk. "You're playing the part of a crowd watching a parade. What you cannot do is say Bo or Hope or address yourselves to 'Days of Our Lives' or Salem or anything to do with the show," he warns. The group does as it's told. But after restraining themselves for so many hours, when taping is done, the onlookers break through the police barricades and run screaming after Bo and Hope. Once young girl clutches an empty Lipton iced tea can Peter drank from. Her girlfriend had managed to retrieve it and had given it to her for a birthday gift. Swooning, she says, "This is going right in my room."

 

The last scenes of the day are shot at the NASA exhibit. By now there's a crowd of four to five thousand people lining the stairs, the walkways and the taping area. The intensity with which they watch the scenes being shot almost equals the actors' concentration. How does it feel to be stared at by so many people? I ask Kristian, "I feel like I'm in a cage," she responds gaily. Explaining that she hasn't eaten for two days, Kristian adds, "I just wish they'd throw me some good food."

 

The group gathered at Jackson square the next day is not as large, but there are easily 500 people there. To the fans' delight some are used as extras. They are supposed to crisscross in the background while Bo and Hope enjoy the sights at the square. It's funny how people have difficulty walking when a television camera is recording their movement. Ted Baker, the stage manager, has the job of loosening limbs. "You are not going to think about the cameras," he instructs. "You are just going to put your mind to looking at the sights. When shooting is about to begin," Ted jokes. "My cast is over-rehearsed." As usual, Al explains what is going on to the crowd and asks for cooperation. But today there is a slight strain in his voice. "No talking," he says crisply. "If you're talking, you're going to move. And no pictures," he warns.

 

Although the area residents are ecstatic about being within seeing distance of their television favorites, the street artists who normally set up in that area are not because it means losing money. To compensate for the loss of business, 'Days of Our Lives' makes a contribution to the artists' fund.

 

There's some shooting in the French market, a colorful tourist area where horse-drawn carriages can be rented for a unique tour of the city. A police officer chuckles when he recalls that Kristian fell out of a carriage and they rushed to help her, only to find that they were interrupting a scene. Kristian was supposed to fall out.

 

By mid-afternoon, the heat has me fatigued but I don't feel quite so wimpy since some of the local media are complaining of weariness also. But the cast looks great. Frances Reid, looking crisp and cool, sits next to me as she waits for a cab to take back to the hotel. She's in a pensive mood, trying to understand the commotion that her presence has created. "The staring doesn't bother me at all, because I have the concentration," she remarks. "What does bother me is that they expect something from us that we can't give them. We're just ordinary actors doing our jobs. I think they expect me to be Alice Horton - larger than life - but I'm not. You'd like to be courteous," she continues, "but you don't have time. You're here doing a job and each one wants individual attention. At this moment, I'm bewildered. I haven't sorted it out. This is a gala atmosphere; everything is so relaxed and it's a beautiful city. If this were happening in a dark city it would be depressing."

 

Later that day after taping has been stopped on Bourbon Street because the narrow streets, coupled with a large crowd and not enough security makes it impossible to go on, Al reflects on his feelings about the crowds. "It's well worth the effort," he says. "Now, you can sneak in and sneak out, but you don't get the vibes. It's been very exhilarating, although it's been a little difficult," he admits. Agreeing with Al, Kristian comments, "it was a bit frightening at the airport, but I was glad for the support." Chiming in, Peter adds, "The energy of the people here has been great. It took me a long time to tune in to all that energy and use it."

Day three

and we all could use some that energy Peter talked about. No one relishes the thought of getting up at 3:00 a.m. so we can be on the road to Oak Alley, a plantation almost two hours outside of New Orleans. But like troopers, the bus is loaded and the caravan, which includes several huge trucks takes off by 4:30.

 

If it weren't for the sounds of slavery that echo throughout Oak Alley, they plantation would be beautiful. There are 28 oak trees forming a natural arch and acres of cool green grass are a very soothing sight for tired eyes. On the Mississippi, a barge rolls slowly along and the feel of history closes in. "Hold that barge," Al yells jokingly. Down by the river, Kristian smears mud all over Peter to make it appear that Bo's been fighting off criminals in the bayou. After finishing this rather messy scene, someone yells, "Clean up. We're going to do it again." Kristian's face falls. "What!" she yells before realizing she's been had.

 

While Al may have seemed a bit terse with the crowd the day before, this day he's in perfect form and the audience loves the way he talks to them. Pointing to Al, Cindy LeBlanc, who is two weeks overdue in her pregnancy says, "He's wonderful. That man's got more patience than anyone I know. If I have a little boy I'm going to name him Bo," she adds.

 

Throughout the day, Peter and Kristian oblige the audience by answering questions, posing for pictures and kissing. It seems that the more Kristian and Peter give, the more the crowd wants. What ultimately keeps the audience quiet are the love scenes. It is here, under the oaks, where Bo and Hope consummate their love for the second time. After one particularly hot scene, Kristian is told that she looks sexy. "Are you kidding?" she answers. "That's the most revealing thing I've ever done."

 

The day ends with a romantic scene on the balcony. Peter and Kristian are splendid in gorgeous lingerie with Peter swathed in a satin robe and Kristian a lacy gown. Then, Al calls the cast and crew together. Even though there are a few scenes to be shot the next day, it feels like a wrap. Al directs them in his version of "Old Man River" which ends with "He just keeps rolling dat tape." As the crew below hums, Peter and Kristian do an exaggerated love scene. "I love you Bo. I love you Hope," they say back and forth.

 

Finally, the gang gets together to wish New Orleans a fond goodbye.

The Kirsten Storms talk from Langan is definitely interesting in retrospect. How often do writer's do interviews where they do that (straight out saying this actor is playing against what I'm writing and I don't think I like it)?

25TH Anniversary On-Show Montages:

FIRST COMES LOVE...

THEN COMES MARRIAGE....

THEN THE BABY CARRIAGE!

SO THIS IS CHRISTMAS!

TOM & ALICE!

I don't remember hearing an explanation on the clips. These old clips ... so, so good.

Don't know if the following has been posted because this thread is 84 pages long and I can't go over it page for page. 25th Anniversary Promos that ran on NBC.

LOVE

LAUGHTER

MEMORABLE MOMENTS

Watched Hope & Larry's completed wedding for the first time last night. This is wonderful. It's like a mildly funny but really sad funeral. That moment where Alice recognizes how devastated Hope looks at the altar and then starts tearing up herself *sniffle* I will say the scene with Mickey staring at Maggie is weird because Melissa's boyfriend is also in that frame looking like he's staring at Maggie with hungry eyes. (He's probably staring at Melissa). So the story behind the wedding is Larry and Hope are both being forced to marry each other or else repercussions to their loved ones (they beat the living chit out of Bo), family, career, etc. The guy who gets Hope the water is one of the goons.

This reminds me of the real reason I quit in 2003, I just had heard the news JER was returning as head-writer and I wall all "I've done taken enough. Bye." I don't think she was full on possessed for the story. It was a tease to explain why she killed Alice, Doug, Caroline, Roman,, Michael Jackson and Elvis Presley.

This was also a humorous find. Josh Taylor seems to have chemistry with a female and is not annoying in these scenes. Leann Hunley! TP is so much cuter in 2007. Stefano asking Hope on a date after trying to choke her and "learning" she's sleeping with Steve. I like when Steve is Patch-light. So who gave that trio the drugged wine? .

The mini re-threads DAYS did while I was on my long hiatus, sigh; most of the re-threads were kind of funny though. For some reason this had me LOL the entire time I was watching it.

I'm not a big Derek or MerDer fan and I was spoiled ... but the episode still made me cry. GA does death well.

- Derek narrating his impending death. The music. I'm going to die because of their lack of experience. So haunting. As if Shonda wasn't causing her audience enough pain, she made us even more terrified of hospitals.

- Meredith stopping the nurse from disconnecting Derek. I thought she was going to beg him to come back to her. Chasing Cars came on and.... Meredith instead telling him that they'll be okay and it's okay to go. I could not do that. Strong moment.

*through sobs*

Damn, the irony that exactly one week later I would stand over my mother - as her blood pressure started to drop and as her heart began to stop beating - with my hand placed over her heart and tell her the same words.

I guess I should have knocked on wood after typing that comment.

The whole situation was eerily similar. Being awake for a period but completely trapped in your body, the doctors deciding to do the appropriate medical treatment only when it was too late... The main difference was my mother was in the so-called best hospital in New York.

Episode got 9.55 million total viewers (kind of destroying Scandal which had 7.79). They also got a hefty 2.8 in 18-49 (kind of destroying Scandal, again, 2.3). F'in impressive for Season 11.

GA also destroyed on Social Media. 600,000 plus tweet (Scandal had roughly 200,000).

I've enjoyed most of this season so I like. It'll be interesting to see if they can sustain any of this next week with the league of angry fans Shonda has left behind.

I had a feeling he was exiting the show with the low amount of episodes but recently there had been a lot of rumors about it REALLY happening (PD talking about spending the rest of the year focusing on racing). Then a few hours before the episode, a fan who got their Entertainment Weekly in the mail early leaked the information.

I'm not a big Derek or MerDer fan and I was spoiled ... but the episode still made me cry. GA does death well.

- That little girl realizing Derek was hurt: "you stay not dead, okay." She was phenomenal or that scene was phenomenal because my heart started racing and I almost burst out crying. .

- Derek narrating his impending death. The music. I'm going to die because of their lack of experience. So haunting. As if Shonda wasn't causing her audience enough pain, she made us even more terrified of hospitals.

- Meredith stopping the nurse from disconnecting Derek. I thought she was going to beg him to come back to her. Chasing Cars came on and.... Meredith instead telling him that they'll be okay and it's okay to go. I could not do that. Strong moment.

Honorable Mention to the female doc in stupid-male-doctor hospital. She was awesome sauce too.

There's definitely many issues with pacing, yes, but personally, I was stunned they did Lucious and Cookie hooking up so quickly. I understand he's the [only] one for her, but his behind let her rot in prison for over a decade while he was making it and hitting it all over town. Typically, a show will keep that type of tension going for as long as possible - the hurt along with the deep attraction. I would have had them heavily making out, starting to disrobe, Anika heading home on the last episode of Season One.

It'll be interesting to see what they do with Season 2. They won't have the stresses attached that they may have had with this season so I expect to see a difference with pacing.

I'm with Cheap on this. The timing with quite a few things this season has hit me as odd, as rushed, as huh??? I feel like the show takes stuff you can build on and just puts it out their too suddenly. The show is really entertaining but it's definitely also sloppy.

I'm not sure who made this but it's hilarious...

This was actually my favorite episode of the season sans the series premiere just for the Andre story alone. That elevator scene was fantastic. IMO, most resonating scene since the garbage can scene with baby Jamal/Lucious/Cookie.

I agree with the poster that felt the brothers did tell Lucious what happened in the elevator albeit off-screen.

Looking forward to seeing this story play out more next week. I'm rooting for Andre not to give in to the beautiful Ms. Hudson. Looking forward to all the different dynamics play here - wife/husband (fear), mother/son (guilt), father/son (denial), brothers.

The Cookie/Lucious/Anika bit was a little too neat in a messy way.

These bitches (Kyle, Lisa R with a side of Eileen and Lisa V) group crying and being a bunch of me-victim hypocrites after Lisa's assault. Ugh. I'm so Team Brandi, Kim and Yolanda right now.

Except for Kim acting like a serial killer in that car with Lisa, she's acted no different most of this season than she acted last season when nobody was doubting her sobriety. Kim has admitted she took a pill she shouldn't have and it had a bad result. Lisa wants blood from her for some reason and is going to everybody to attempt to get toothpicks to stab and drain Kim of blood with. What's the harm of what a "concerned" Lisa is doing? Look at the internet, everybody is taking Lisa's word as the gospel even though it's arguable that except for one relatively minor episode, Kim is acting no different than last season. That's hurtful and harmful to Kim and Kim's family. Even if Lisa's right about her sobriety, you're basically putting her dirt on television like it's your religion, like it's a discussion board and it's the soap you love discussing. That's not helpful. How does that even begin to be helpful?

I don't dislike Lisa, but calling that chit she's been doing to Kim right in any way? Pfft.

ETA:

At the beginning of this season, I think I said Eileen was the better addition to the cast. I take that back. Eileen is like a cool dork stuck in a horror house, but once you start pulling the curtain threads back and off from Lisa Rinna - that looks like a royal mess. Maybe it's Kim hinting at a mess that makes me think that - but now I really do think that. [Hmm, Lisa getting some of the harm that results in one spreading what one believes to be "founded" rumors]. I wonder if Harry is going to be down with her doing another season.

This first look is really good. A lot of soap opera "acting" moments. SPOILERS BELOW.

http://stoopidhousewives.com/2015/02/27/rhobh-preview-part-ii-fighting-in-holland/

Kim drags Lisa, Eileen and Kyle like she's picking her teeth. Dayum.

I don't blame Kim. Lisa is all up in her business and doing [Kim's] business like it's [Lisa's] business on national television. Eileen got a few digs thrown at her for interfering in the argument. Kyle "Why Me?" Kerrigan gets a Kathy-dig from Kim.

Lisa Rinna's reaction to Kim just bringing up the notion of talking chit about Harry was so OTT.

So lets talk hypocrisy. The fandom and these ladies will forever attack Brandi for throwing wine in Eileen's face in what added up to a fangurl/attention-whore moment. Lisa Rinna breaks glass over Kim and goes to choke Kim for even hinting at giving her a taste of her own medicine, and it will be no big deal. Kim had it coming. Eileen, and Lisa to a lesser extent, bitch about Brandi trying to come between sisters and Eileen is doing the same exact thing in this episode because she got told off for butting in by Kim. That'll be brushed under the rug. Kyle has a chance to defend Kim in these scenes. During the beginning Kim is just stating some facts. Instead of supporting Kim, Kyle is there acting embarrassed about her sister. She doesn't defend Kim to anybody, really, she acts put upon and stirs the other girls up on Kim as much as Kim may stir Brandi up on Kyle.

I don't dislike the flavor Lisa Rinna is bringing to the show at all. It's conductive to drama. I don't really dislike anybody this season except for Brandi, Kyle and Lisa Vanderpump when they get a little much on their rough sides (Lisa with her high horse, Kyle with her victim card screeching, and 2-drink Brandi), which is nice.

Lisa's enforcement on the Kim issue is OTT. Sort of like the summation of Kim and Kyle's relationship is not or should not be any of Brandi's business, the summation of what Kim or Kim's friends and family are or aren't doing to Lisa's standards in recovery is not for Lisa to say or enforce. Kim freaked you out that evening SO don't hang out with her alone anymore. Lisa is as obsessed with her thoughts on Kim, right now, as Carlton was with her thoughts on Kyle last season.

The show is camp but really delicious camp with pathos.

The scenes with Andre and his wife were really good. On the surface it seems to be all about money and power, but she's clearly ride or die for him and his breakdown was because, mental illness aside, deep down he probably loves or at least needs his father to be his father the most out of all the brothers.

I don't know if I'm appreciative of how quickly they got Lucious and Cookie back hooking up. I was thinking they'd hold out until Season Finale or the beginning of Season 2 at least. Cookie should be no hands in the cookie jar pissed until at least Season Two. She's clearly ride or die too. I'm perplexed but not mad.

Put together Elle's singing was still pretty much off-key. If Anika had heard her she probably wouldn't have done her so durty. I ain't mad at her though. I mean Cookie already got some poor dude murdered because Lucious sent her a rose. Both women are clearly a little bit dangerous.

TH did a wonderful job tonight. Taraji is usually stealing the show outright, but tonight he definitely got some good shine.

Hakeem confuses me. He looks like a butch girl but I do think he's cute when he's doing his rap thing. I like his rap thing better than Jamal's R&B thing TBH.

I can tell baby girl is so not going to be Jamal's baby girl with the family already getting so attached to her.

Brandi sober is still not a likable Brandi.. except she's mean instead of giggly.

Except for her ongoing menopause/old angle, Brandi was not the one who came off mean in last nights edition of RHOBH. The difference between 2 glasses of wine Brandi and no glasses of wine Brandi is the difference between Eileen's poker party and Lisa's birthday party. I can't stand 2 glasses of wine Brandi while I enjoy no glasses of wine Brandi more than most of these heffers.

Kim in her blog says she has a life coach and a sober group, etc. She basically says it's nobodies business - including Kyle and Brandi's - to know about this. I don't know if I believe her though because in last nights episode she seemed to make it clear she's not doing recovery in the normal way. She never countered anybody when they mentioned that she was not doing recovery in the normal way (the group, the sponsor). I respect not feeling you have to answer to anybody but what would be the point of not revealing these things? She says she doesn't interfere in Brandi and Kyle's arguments because it's a danger to her sobriety, uhm ISN'T letting them go at each others neck and nag to you about each other a bigger danger? She could just tell them both to STFU because they're endangering her sobriety by arguing and trying to make her choose between two people that she is very fond of.

That all aside, besides that limo episode with Lisa Rinna, Kim is acting no more unusual than normal ... since she's been sober. I don't get why it's the gospel that she's a flaming addict off the wagon because Lisa and Eileen have decided that it is. She did have a set back and she pretty much owned up to it. Did she own up to it as hard as she should have? No, at least not in front of the camera.

RHOBH

Really good episode. It had depth to it. The preview looks fantastic.

Original Recipe Lisa and Kyle's mutual Brandi hate bringing them together and causing them to have selective amnesia (read: acting like their relationship issues started because of Brandi's tabloid tale)? Heffers. Cannot wait until that fakeship crumbles.

Kyle? WahBrandiwahBrandiwahBrandiwahKimwahKimwahKimwah. STFU already. Shrew. Loud shrew. She's like Amanda from Big Brother (15?).

Brandi needs to STFU about menopause and age, in general, already. She's not so far away from being an older woman with menopause herself.

Kathy being more friendly with Brandi than with Kyle? Hee. I need the tea spilled on Kathy and Kyle.

Brandi claiming she accidentally threw a glass a wine on Eileen. I know some of you will take it as she was seriously lying and doing it in a court of law, but I literally did LOL.

Lisa and Brandi trying to get out of ORLisa's party with centerpieces was pretty damn magnificent.

The dynamic between ORLisa and Brandi ... I like. They both "know" who the other is and neither really like what they see but they still have this really popping underlying chemistry.

This episode put into perspective the fact that even if Kim is not off the wagon that she has not built up the right support system for a recovering addict. She needs to be going to meetings and having a safe sober pal from those meetings. After seeing this episode, I do think both Kyle and Brandi genuinely care about her. I've been picking on Kyle and Brandi for their immaturity more than I've been picking on Kim for anything, lately, but Lisa has a point - Kim seems to be encouraging or not discouraging the discourse between sister and friend in a subtle manner as it takes the attention off of her.

That all said, Lisa is going way overboard in the involvement she thinks she's allowed to have here. She's pulling Eileen into her social worker tenancies too. The interference does add to the drama so I'm not complaining.

Eileen's husband is magical. Eileen's a great addition to the cast. I like when she's sitting back, judging and then making frank statements off what she's seen. I may not agree with her every single time but I do think she's being completely honest about her perceptions and I totally respect that. I don't like when she gets pulled into Lisa Rinna's chit though, you can see the start of her getting messy when she falls into Lisa's mentality. I don't dislike Lisa, but her need to be involved here is messy. ORLisa warned her.

People tend to act like Yolanda went along with Brandi on the Lisa thing. Nobody was more off put by Lisa than Yolanda almost from the start. It remains in her character too (being off put by Lisa).

It's arguable with Yolanda. We don't know what goes on except in the face of 14-20 taping days that turns into 3 months of television. Maybe, Yolanda likes Brandi for good reason and thinks there's something worth taking the messiness for (admirable). Or maybe she's scared of what Brandi will bring on her if she pulls away (coward). You don't really know. I don't really know.

I don't see the Lisa thing as coming out of nowhere. From Schaena to her backing away - and going back to her former arch nemesis Kyle - when she saw Brandi being messier and messier. As I said earlier, though, Lisa comes off as having made an intelligent choice (having foresight) when you see Brandi continuously just being a careless wreck for airtime or whatever.

I see the Kyle thing as coming out of nowhere. Brandi didn't like Kyle and vice versa - for a couple of seasons - but they appeared to work through it even before Brandi started disliking Lisa. For Brandi to go from that to trying to help ruin Kyle's relationship with Kim in the blink of an eye?

What does that mean?

Pulling a Lisa means backing away from the crazy b-tch in a not so subtle nature once she starts showing the messy parts a little too regularly.

The only relationship fall out I don't really hold against Brandi is the one with Lisa. I get her issues with Lisa.

Everybody else? It's on Brandi. In the reflection of those failures, you can't fault Lisa.

Brandi and Kyle have been getting along. Kyle, IMO, was doing a good job juggling being friends with both Brandi and Lisa. Then Brandi flips a switch and decides it's time to hate Kyle again. She very suddenly begins acting like Kyle is the worst sister that ever existed.

Then there's Kim. "Recovering" alcoholic Kim is having a lot of issues with her home life (taking care of her dying ex, kids going off to college) so Brandi decides that insinuating to Kim that her sister wants her to fail and hates her should be on Brandi's to-do-list on the regular. Then Brandi starts doing what she is accusing Kyle of doing, she's using her BF Kim's issues for storyline and/or to deflect off her own issues.

So Yolanda brings up the accurate point that Brandi becomes a bigger butthole when she's drinking and maybe that she has some form of alcoholism. What does Brandi do at the suggestion? She, more or less, drags the name of Yolanda's child through the mud to her face at that moment. I gained respect for Yolanda in that moment for not pulling a Lisa Vanderpump on her on the spot.

I'm all for a comeback story but I feel like I'm done with this bitch on the RHOBH front. All she seems to care about anymore is stirring chit at whoevers expense. She's become the fakest of them all on this series.

RHOBH

Kim was being more sensible than both Kyle and Brandi for the first half of the episode. It was like she was handling two teenagers during their hormonal years. Truthfully, Kim should probably take a break from both Brandi and Kyle. IMO, neither relationship is good for her when push comes to shove because both women are selfish and self-serving at least in terms of RHOBH.

While I agree with some of Brandi's impressions of Kyle as a sister, IMO it's totally not her place to put that out to Kim. Kim may say stuff to her about Kyle from time to time, but family is family - they say things they don't mean OR that are frankly none of your business to get involved with EVEN if they go on and on to you about it.

I don't like what Lisa Rinna is doing circa Kim's sobriety. I was a little off-put by Kyle getting on Kim for being a day off, as well. Kim seemed fine to me the entire episode. A little too optimistic but fine for Kim.

Kyle is being too much of a drama queen for me. I'd be on her side if she wasn't over doing it to an extreme. She doesn't hear what she wants to hear and she starts squealing like a wounded pig.

Brandi coming for Yolanda's daughter in that conversation in the preview? F--ked up. I am interested to see how that conversation goes though. I remain confused about what Brandi's real problem is on RHOBH? Is it that she thinks being an a--hole makes good television, so screw all other sense? Is it that she has a real drinking problem? I don't know where I stand on the drinking problem as she did not come off as a person with an addiction on Celebrity Apprentice. I think her bigger problem on RHOBH is she thinks acting like an over-opinionated, over "honest" a--hole is a good thing. Nah, gurl, it's just obnoxious,

"My gays" ... Was I the only one off put by this circa Lisa R and especially Kyle? It's both the statement and that it felt so contrived. It felt almost as if they were itemizing. It felt rather insulting. Nene comes off the same way circa RHOA when she starts trying to claim "her gays."

Lisa V. really should get the f--k off RHOBH. I'd watch a show with her family and dogs. The adopted son? Awesome sauce. RHOBH just makes me dislike her because there's so much room for pretentious behavior.

It's true tho, Lisa is so over all these women. Even the noobies. I'm sure she likes them, but she has disconnected...At this point I think they earned it, even if it may be best for the show as a whole to dump the women who have outgrown it.

Right now, I think RHOBH would thrive without Lisa. The element of Lisa and Lisa herself keeps a heavy dynamic in the mix that is now really tired and old. She's a classy Nene. The classy part isn't exactly a positive in the RH franchise. I hope she chooses to step out of the show on her own prior to the next season starting. Bravo could keep her in business or years outside of RHOBH with her restaurants, dog, etc.