P.J.

last night's ratings 1.47 million, .5 (18-49)

I get that---but that's hardly exclusively a "rich person" problem. Plenty of poor folk don't give a crap about family and only look out for themselves. There doesn't seem to be much difference between the "haves" and "have nots". Hannah speaks to one of her children, and the kids have some kind of loyalty to each other it seems. Problem is there's nothing in the Cryers that make them the least bit likeable. Or more importantly, interesting. Two self-destructive idiot children and two self-serving viper parents. I'm not seeing anything unique. And considering how wealthy and privileged the Cryers are supposed to be, this show feels positively claustrophobic.

And she wasn't even on last night, to my recollection. The main thing that disturbs me is that I don't get any feeling of family in the Cryers. Yes, I understand there's dysfunction....but even naked boy and dumb-wanna-be-fashionista girl don't act like they ever liked one another. I kind of snickered when the daughter warned in her most determined Barbie-doll voice---"you know what happens when I feel bad". Like her head's gonna start twisting around and vomiting like Linda Blair in The Exorcist.

The dialogue is beyond atrocious. I guess this is how Perry thinks he's pulling some Downton Abbey vibe...when his characters deliver their lines in the same tone of voice, no matter what? Note to set designers---just because you stage x number of seating areas in a space, it does not make the stage look bigger.

Well...I didn't want to be a complete homer. I will say, making Jack such an hormonally driven teenager around Molly made him look like a chump. I think ATWT was going through HWs like underoos about this time. So whoever may have intended to write Jack/Molly might not have been around that long.

I think a lot of that had to do with HWs not knowing WTF to do with Molly. She ran the gamut from "wrongly imprisioned" to "batshit crazy". Molly kind of got neutered to hook her up with Jake a couple of years later. Carly and Molly rarely converged in the same story. They kind of interacted with separate spheres of characters. I'm not really sorry, since the incestuousness of ATWT could be smothering at times.

Y'know, as glad as I am that the Jack/Molly story went nowhere...there's no denying that visually, they looked really good together. And there's no denying Martha's hair looked a hell of a lot better shorter than the dark, frumpy mess Goutman foisted upon her.

Nah---all of Candace's blackmail is over a ONS with Jim. My bet is that his father's white though...as is Candace's.

Well, let's see what next week's numbers are.

Everything SMG wore made her look 3'10''.

Yeah, I wasn't impressed with much of it. I'm not overly familiar with Tyler Perry's programs, but it makes the acting on Dallas 2.0 look like the Royal Shakespeare Company. And visually, I haven't seen anything look as bad since the horrible travesty of SMG's Ringer. I don't understand how you go from the opening shot of an impressive estate to the dark, painted-over-plywood looking sets.

WHY is Crystal Fox in that hideous wig? Is there some rule "maid hair" has to be fugly, and "bible class hair" is cute and snappy?

Cal gave Lily a Grandpa. Isn't that purpose enough in life?

It's okay. But for a 2013 show, it seems really dated. You got that girl channeling Ali McGraw from Love Story, maids in stiff, black uniforms, and a set that looks like a Barbie Dream House.

LOL..I liked Connor, I liked Cal...but I still shudder remembering that horrific cowboy-themed wedding. *YIKES!*

I wouldn't call Mark/Connor popular. Allyson Rice Taylor was---she was fired shortly afterwards, and the recast was an epic failure. Mark (I think) lasted until '97, but Oakdale was Kasnoff free I think by June of that year.

Allison had just returned, so she was in "lame ass angry teenager" mode. Emily was making waves about telling Alison that she was biologically her daughter (not her sister) around this time, so that might have been the cause.

If there's one person I truly don't miss from GL other than fakeMarina, he'd be it. Oh, didya hear Spencer Grammer's on the revamped Ironside? Color me surprised.

Let's not forget, this was back in the '70's. Older women did dress more conservatively. And polyester looks good on NO one.

Well, I'd blame it more on my (at times) swiss cheese memory and being too lazy to think about which show it was. LOL.

I know I've seen her in a couple of other things. Oddly, she didn't look any older (to me). Meredith Hagner, otoh, looked like, 30. And speaking of TT, she was in a recent Elementary. Or maybe it was Golden Boy.

The Following is like ATWT-Primetime. Jen Ferrin, Annie Parisse, Meredith Hagnar and JoAnna Rhinehart were all on tonight's show. I fully expect Kathy Hays or Don Hastings to show up as sweet-faced cultists and run a shiv in someone.

Well, TIIC could have been seeing what, if anything, was there. With McClain constantly having one foot out the door, I don't think it's unreasonable to wonder. Also, the scenes between Paul and Lucy felt like that was being felt out too. But I believe List left that summer, and probably told them early she wasn't interested in re-signing. But sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. It's kind of hard to imagine Sheffer and Goutman breaking their couple pattern---one good, one bad (or at least morally challenged)---to pair up Paul and Carly. Although the thought of the ensuing Barbara/Carly fireworks make my mouth water. Who knows what went through those assholio minds. I guess I do understand why Howarth seemed like a good move. He had one wickedly rabid fanbase. It just never (or rarely) translated into a ratings bump for us. They couldn't (and shouldn't have tried to) retool the show and make Howarth the center.

I really have never understood the decision to cast Roger as Paul. Paul had survived a lot worse (like thinking he'd actually killed his father) and sending him 'round the bend over Rose's death (or arguably the fact his brother was responsible) when getting free of that screechy ball-buster was (IMO) the narrowest escape of his life, made little sense. Had they brought him in as ANYONE else (and my favorite what if was Scott Eldredge) I think they'd have been much better served. Scott was virtually a blank slate. And it's not like Doug Wert's comic six-month misstep in the role detracted from Joe Breen's performance. It's not like with ATWT's rich history, they couldn't have found ONE other character to pick from. I could probably name TEN without much effort.

No. This was the only truly non-drama-filled Carjack span. (From their Montana wedding/Sage's birth to Jack's disappearance in June or July when he miraculously crossed the Mississippi river and became AmnesiJack.) It's the start of the Paul/Rosanna thing. Craig has set up Paul and Cabot's adoption blows up, ending the Craig/Ro marriage. If I'm not mistaken, I believe Paul saves Lucy from being raped in February, and Paul teams up with Carly to ghost design Barbara's line in March (as Babs starts going blind), and Lucy (with her little crush on Paul) ends up being stuck with Paul and Carly in a snowstorm somewhere out East.