Ms. Quartermaine

I’ve been checking Twitter for Tracy updates and just had to watch the Drunk!Tracy scenes from Thursday. I have no idea what is going on storyline wise (something with Deception), but watching her scenes reminded me of how much I used to post here and how much fun we had in the break room (chat room). Here are some gifs I made of her fabulous scenes:

She's baaaaack!

So far, Tracy has been on 11/30 (very briefly), 12/01, 12/10, and 12/11. She is also in the previews for 12/14. 

She hasn't received a lot of screentime, but it's so nice to see Jane Elliot as Tracy again.

Hope everyone is well. :)

Right clicking and opening a new tab doesn't work for me, but I'm also on my phone, so maybe that has something to do with it. 

Tracy's return...

To everyone celebrating, Merry Christmas!

ILTQ, I still can't read replies, but I do see that you've responded. I keep getting an error message. Anyway, to answer your question, you can see the Christmas Carol episode on Instagram (it's sped up and the audio doesn't sync with the video, but it's something). You have to do a search for "Tracyquartermaine." 

You can see her return that aired in Canada below...

https://mobile.twitter.com/FrizFans/status/1209204371239493632

I'm so excited for Jane's return.

1 minute ago, DRW50 said:

It's great to see your posts again @Ms. Quartermaine

Aww, thanks!  

It's been awhile since I've posted here (I've been lurking though...)

Just some comments about HRC, the electoral college, et. al...

When Hillary blames the loss on other factors, she is basing this on Nate Silver's analysis and possibly others (though his is the only name I can recall). Yes, she made mistakes and admitted as much, but those mistakes wouldn't have mattered if the election was held on October 27th. 

Plus, mistakes are common during a campaign, but I get the impression that Hillary was supposed to be perfect and not make any. Meanwhile, there is Trump with one gaffe after another and still ends up winning. I admire that Hillary isn't throwing her staff under the bus. As for Wisconsin, she sent surrogates there, and even if she did go, she went to PA, FL, and NC frequently, and we saw how that worked out. 

Calling Hillary and Trump both crappy candidates is false equivalence and part of the reason we're in this predicament. Also, voter turn out was 54.7%. 2012 was 54.9%. That's basically the same, and no one is calling Obama and Romney both crappy candidates. 

Hillary lost more votes in the electoral college because some Bernie Bros thought they could get Republicans on board by nominating someone such as Kasich or Powell and having the vote go to the House. Though someone in Washington ended up going with Faith Spotted Eagle, and then in Hawaii, someone went with Bernie to make a statement. There were also Trump electors that didn't show up because they couldn't vote for him, but they had replacements on hand. Didn't hear that about HRC. 

For the record, I wasn't supporting HRC in the primaries. I didn't involve myself in politics, and the media blamed her for Benghazi years ago, and so I thought she did something wrong. But then I did a lot of research, I watched interviews, behind the scenes footage...And that is when I decided to support her. I think the constant negativity also made me feel bad for her, and I ended up liking her more. I don't agree with everything she's said or done (I mean, even recently in the Code Conference, she said something that made me shake my head).

But at the end of the day, I believe she is a good person who cares about the country and its people, and with a Democratic Senate, she would have excelled. With a Republican Senate (and of course House), well, I'd like to believe the R's could work with her like they did when she was a senator, but I suspect there would be a lot of executive orders (though they'd be good ones) and even more investigations in an attempt to find her guilty of something. She knew this too, that they'd tear her down again and again, and yet still decided to run. She was willing to sacrifice her well-being for the country (and I'm sure, she would have liked the power too, but everyone who ever runs for President seeks power...). 

I think that's all for now. 

nex and LuAnn, so good to "see" you both again!!!

ILTQ, I'll be thinking of you this Mother's Day. *hugs*

And you're right. GH did seem to undo the plaque falling. She just blacked out and hallucinated apparently, and Dillon wondered if doing the right thing caused her to have some kind of nervous breakdown. 

I have 2 questions...

Question #1: How did we go from "I've been a horrible person, let me give the painting to Samira" to "I'm at peace and done chasing my father's love?"

Question #2: And I wonder why Tracy didn't investigate Samira and Ashton? She was the most reluctant after all.

As for her last episode...Did not agree with all the flash back choices and I was holding out hope that Jane would let at least one tear fall (sorry halee and hooked, I had to go there), but those goodbye scenes were nicely done. Monica's "our house" comment and Tracy running back into hug Monica (followed by the group hug) were my favorite parts.

Really going to miss Jane/Tracy being on the show. Even if she wasn't on often, she was still *there,* and now she's not.  I hope this thread still gets action, but I'm not hopeful. I went back 32 pages to page 2000 and IIRC, it was June 2015...That's about 16 pages a year which is practically nothing. But... who knows... maybe Jane/Tracy leaving will bring more people out of lurkdom. 

Edit: Hey! We made it to page 2033!

TL, I believe the date that truenorth provided is correct. Also, AJ's plaque definitely hit Tracy, but I guess the scenes were filmed out of order, and someone forgot to put the plaque back on the ground at the end. 

slick jones, 2 episodes would have been good. They could have also used the extra time for her to defend herself (show some positive clips?). And I agree about Sonny and Nathan. Sean K. as the prosecutor never came to mind, but it would have been better to have only Q's in those scenes. 

I missed the other episodes with Ashton (I have them on my DVR still), so I'm not sure what today was all about. But Samira is gone, thankfully. Unfortunately, I don't think Tracy is on again until Thursday, her final episode. 

Edited to add: TL, I just mean her exit was so focused on a new character. GH has been talking retirement for awhile, I think. Surely GH had to know she was going, and I was just disappointed the Samira thing was the best they could come up with. Tony is back May 4th, but my spec is that it's just the very last scene. Tracy is leaving town, so I'm assuming she ends up in another country where Luke happens to be. Now in real life, what are the chances? LOL. But on a soap, why not???

truenorth, congratulations on your twins!!! 

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I can't believe that next week is Jane's final episode. I've been on this board since February 2004 (though all members had to re-register in 2005), and even though it's been "dead" for at least the last year, that hasn't stopped me from lurking. 13 years is a long time, and I've never been more involved in a fandom that this one...posting in the forum, creating music videos, writing fan fiction, remember chatting in the "break room?" Again, none of this has happened in any great capacity recently, but I still have the memories. 

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As far as her exit story goes, I don't like that it's about a new character, and I also don't like that her tribute focused only on the negative. I get that was the whole point, to guilt into doing the right thing, but TPTB made it seem like she was always rotten, and that simply isn't true. That said, how awesome was it that she actually got an episode dedicated to her? I wish it could have lasted a whole week!!! I hope we get a montage in her last episode. 

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Random, but AJ's plaque should have still been on the ground when she woke up, and I'm willing to suspend belief, like "Okay, the plaque really should have killed her or cracked her skull and didn't." But she should have been disoriented upon waking up, or at the very least, there could have been blood on her fingers when she felt her head, or she could have mentioned needing ice or something!!! Stone just doesn't fall on one's head and not cause injury. 

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Well, that's all for now. I'm sure I'll be back next week. 

On 12/15/2016 at 7:58 PM, DRW50 said:

Belated happy birthday. 

Thanks! (and thanks for sharing that episode)

On 12/22/2016 at 9:21 AM, ILoveTracyQ said:

Aw Ms.Q that Burgi quote makes me miss Tracy/Paul SO much.   Thanks for posting the AMC clip, DRW50.  So, who is enjoying Tracy and Hayden? I kinda like them and Finn together, but hate that they won't write for Tracy. Stupid show. Still, JE has had awesome stuff the last month or two. It could be(and has been) worse.

 

Ms.Q, I left you a PM.

I think I need to update my avatar and signature with something more recent...I do wonder how that Paul/Tracy/Laura triangle would have worked out if Maura hadn't wanted to be paired with Burgi - or so the story goes. As for the last couple months, I gotta check episode counts to see how she made out for 2016... 

On 12/3/2016 at 10:37 PM, slick jones said:

Happy Birthday @Ms.Quartermaine

Thank you!!! 

5 hours ago, ILoveTracyQ said:

And yes Ms.Q, happy late birthday !

Thank you!!! 

29 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

^ Do we even know that her voters voted on that issue? Just because it was her issue doesn't mean that's what was motivating people. Anyone really serious about climate change would have voted for Clinton, imo. Otherwise, why risk that an actual climate change denier (who thinks it's a hoax by China no less) will be elected? I just don't believe that very many people at all voted 3rd party except for people casting a protest vote. It was obvious neither of them could win. For all we know the 3rd party voters would have just stayed home instead of voting for either of the main candidates.

That's a good point. A colleague of mine who supported Bernie, voted Stein, saying Trump and Clinton were both terrible candidates.

Another, who also supported Bernie, told me over the summer she may have to vote for Trump because she just doesn't like Hillary. I encouraged her to research and look at the issues.

These colleagues are both in their younger 20s for what it's worth. The second one would later say she didn't like Trump, but she and I never discussed who she voted for. 

Back to third party candidates... If people truly believed in what Stein or Johnson stood for, then, sure, vote for them. I don't agree with voting for 3rd party candidates because they are not going to win, and to me, it's throwing your vote away. But at the same time, it's hard for me to tell someone to not vote their conscience. 

But to just vote for them because they're not Clinton or Trump or to vote for them because your guy, Bernie, lost? That's throwing your vote away in protest. Like voting for Harambe.

I know Bernie Bros weren't the only ones who voted third party, but I just don't know how you vote for someone that guarantees everything you supposedly care about won't get implemented. 

53 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

If there are two phrases I never want to hear again they are "America first" and "Make America great again". This speech in Cincinnati is freaking me out. It's so nationalist in tone.

That assumes those votes would have gone to Clinton and I think that's a pretty big assumption.

I think Stein's voters were more likely to go to Clinton than Trump because of the climate change issue. But if Stein had dropped out, I wonder how many of her supporters would have turned to the other third party candidate. I don't know how her and Johnson's beliefs align tbh. 

55 minutes ago, Juliajms said:

Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump 11m11 minutes ago

"@FiIibuster: @jeffzeleny Pathetic - you have no sufficient evidence that Donald Trump did not suffer from voter fraud, shame! Bad reporter.

 

So the president elect thinks reporters have to prove negatives, also he's speaking about himself in the 3rd person. This just keeps getting better.

And second person in this instance below (without actually saying "you")...

From a Florida speech, less than a week before the election:

"We’ve got to be nice and cool, nice and calm. All right, stay on point, Donald, stay on point. No sidetracks, Donald. Nice and easy."

42 minutes ago, DramatistDreamer said:

Democrats and Republicans will be observing the recount regardless of the fact that Stein initiated it.

Trump should show the confidence that he purports to have and just let the recount happen. He's as thin-skinned as hell.  Maybe losing the popular vote by millions has made him even more insecure (if that's even possible).

 

Edited to add:

Why are Democrats the ones to win popular vote and lose the election?! Luck of the draw, I guess. I looked it up and the 5 times it's happened, it's been the Dems... except for one candidate that was listed as Democrat-Republican, but back then, everyone was Democrat-Republican (or Whig or Federalist, I guess). It was 1824 and after the loss, they were inspired to create the Democratic party. 

28 minutes ago, Nothin'ButAttitude said:

 

I've been saying for the longest on here that Democrats should've put their focus back in GA. They could've won this state over with ease had Hillary or one of her surrogates came here and did work. They could've possibly won the Senate seat here for Jim Barksdale but the DNC didn't even bother to toss dollars behind him for advertisement till it was too late. I don't even remember there being a state debate for the seat. If so, it was never advertised. 

 

But to Barksdale, there were so many sketchy things he and the DNC could've brought to light about Johnny Isakson that they didn't. 

 

Going forward, Democrats need to start investing in the down-ticket too and not just the top of ticket. 

She actually lost Arizona and Georgia by a smaller margin than Ohio! I thought she was making a go at Arizona.  

I would have stayed out of the recount. Trump is so unpredictable and petty... He'd hire someone to go after her in a heartbeat. He'd probably change his mind 2 minutes later, but I wouldn't risk it. Republicans may have said a ton of nice things about her throughout the years, but their actions speak louder. Most of them dislike her and have forever...

I recently read this: 

As Time magazine noted as far back as 1993, cranking out spurious stories that discredited Hillary Clinton and were attributed to anonymous Secret Service agents was a known political trick: 

A Republican consultant told a network newscaster that his job was to make sure Hillary Clinton is discredited before the 1996 campaign. Each day anti-Hillary talking points go out to talk-show hosts. Many of the stories are attributed to the Secret Service in an attempt to give the tales credibility.

3 hours ago, OzFrog said:

 

Regardless of who's getting involved where, it's worth it just to see Trump, Conway et al have complete meltdowns online as has already started to happen.

 

This is election soap opera at its finest.

The title of Trump's statement was so funny... "Ridiculous Recount Request" was in it. I think it should have just said "Recount Request." I actually don't think the recount itself is ridiculous (in Wisconsin and Michigan anyway), but those 2 states aren't enough, and I wish her campaign had stayed out of it. 

What I'm confused about is that the HRC campaign lawyer actually said they didn't see any evidence of tampering or else they, themselves, would have filed for the recount. So why even oversee it if you don't expect anything?

This isn't for real, but it's a funny tweet. 

I know I didn't donate. Don't trust Jill Stein at all. 

19 hours ago, marceline said:

 

She's a former First Lady and former Secretary of State. She gets Secret Service protection for life. I concur with both posts above but let's not think that Hll is just left to her own devices.

 

Oh I know. Was just pointing out a couple of Trump supporters' horrifying behaviors.

I actually just found out that Secretary of States, when working, get Diplomatic Security Service protection, not Secret Service protection. I don't know if DSS is for life though. 

But as a former First Lady, Hillary got Secret Service protection at home while serving as Secretary of State, and as you said, gets it for life.

In other news, Jill Stein is fundraising for a recount in WI, MI, and PA. No way she hits her goal, but I thought it was interesting... 

The Stein/Baraka Green Party Campaign is launching an effort to ensure the integrity of our elections. With your help, are are raising money to demand recounts in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania-- three states where the data suggests a significant need to verify machine-counted in vote totals. 

This effort to ensure election integrity is inyour hands! We need to raise over $2 million by this Friday, 4pm central. In true grassroots fashion, we’re turning to you, the people, and not big-money corporate donors to make this happen.

24 minutes ago, Khan said:

 

I love it, lol.

 

Just to be on the safe side, though, let's make sure the Clintons have enough security.  After everything TrumpCo. has done to whip voters into a frenzy over HRC, I wouldn't be surprised to learn one (or several) of them has it in mind to track her down and lynch her.

One of them lynched a life sized Hillary doll during the general election... And another was selling posters with her face as a target for bullets. 

15 hours ago, marceline said:

 

 

This wasn't about progressivism. Bernie's fans cared about two things: free college and legal weed. They never really cared about the disenfranchised. That's why it was so easy for them to turn on women and PoC. You can't pretend you care about racial justice while you heckle John Lewis.

Interesting.

My sister was a Bernie supporter before Hillary and her reasons that she took one of those political surveys and scored a slightly higher percentage for Bernie over Hillary. She also thought Hillary wasn't a good candidate in the sense that she had that never ending email saga. She ended up supporting Hillary... saying she also agreed with her views and that Bernie got annoying with his "everything must be FREE" stuff... and she also developed a ton of respect for her after watching her in the debates. And as someone whose seen sexism in the work place, my sister really wanted a woman president.

She was talking about the double standard the other night, beginning with "What if Hillary came up on that convention stage with 5 children from 3 different husbands? She would have been called a slut." Anyway, I'm not really sure what the point of me sharing all of this is, but I guess it's about a Bernie fan turned Hillary supporter. She does think Bernie would have won though against Trump because he's a man and because the stuff against him wouldn't have been as bad in her opinion.

31 minutes ago, marceline said:

Another broken campaign promise. He's not going to prosecute Hillary.

1 hour ago, marceline said:

 

True but it will take about a year for the bottom to fall out. Things will go along okay for a while then collapse entirely. I just hope it's right before the midterms.

 

 

 

He's pushing for himself and using Warren as a prop to try and prove he's not a privileged, sexist jerk.

I also think he's pushing for himself. And I thought Hillary had all of that in her platform... Wasn't it the most progressive Democratic platform in history? Did people not buy it coming from Hillary? I read she and Bernie voted 93% of the same in the Senate, so I think she's more progressive than people might think. 

I totally think he wants to run again and beat Trump. And I don't like the implication that Hillary's platform was "vote for me, I'm a woman."

That was part of it for sure, and it makes sense after it gave her a boost in 2008 when she first tried to leave her gender out of it, but he is acting like that was all she did.