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  1. 1 hour ago, Khan said:

    Knowing Y&R these days, if they ever tried to bring back Carl, they'd turn him into some lunatic who beat the hell out of Mary and molested Patty, causing her to become fixated on having a happy married life with her appointed savior, Jack Abbott.

    Well they did have Carl abandon Mary...….lol.....He made a life with another woman and they left it that way.

  2. It will be a very emotional week....I don't look forward to saying goodbye to KSJ and Neil at all. I know I will be a blubbering mess......

     

    I was sick when it happened but having to say goodbye will be very very difficult with a man who was on my screen for 28 years and not to mention he was too young to die.

  3. 6 minutes ago, KMan101 said:

     

    Sorry I tend to often go on rambling side rants ... LOL

     

    NP....I tend to do the same myself. LOL...

     

    I know a lot of actors in soaps but not familiar with some or characters on others.

     

    I did however watch back in the old days,  popular s/l's on other soaps other than Y&R...... Jessie and Angie, AMC....Jenny and Greg AMC, Luke and Laura GH (years ago), ATWT had a few back in the day as well (which was great writing back then) 

     

    I was big on Dynasty years back. Loved the catfights. LOL

  4. 13 hours ago, KMan101 said:

     

    It would be. But so many are "stop whining about Heather Tom" (not on here, but a few ...) lol. We whine and want her back because she actually embodied the role and gave incredible performances. Over a decade and I STILL want her back. That should honestly say a lot.

     

    Heinle has been checked out since she debuted and that hasn't changed. I see a "well, I'm used to her" ... no, you shouldn't just "be used to her" ... and I lol'd seeing people think she did such an amazing job. I just find her dull as a dishrag. She has some OK moments but Victoria as written just isn't what I want Victoria to be. Victoria should be fierce. Not a crying doormat. Heinle seems to have forgotten how to be tough and fierce. She's good for some roles (she'd be great as crying doormat Katie! See, Tom even elevates Katie just because of her acting choices). But then again, some folks prefer quiet, "understated" actresses like Heinle and Marci Miller to more "scenery chewing" Tom and Kate Mansi. But I look at Tom and Mansi as actually, you know, investing and making an effort. Heinle and Marci Miller bore me to tears. I've found them similar. (Though Miller was far more checked in and did try, just wasn't my preferred choice for Abby; the writing didn't help, of course; the writing improved instantly when Mansi came back). I'd probably greatly enjoy Marci Miller on a Lifetime or Hallmark movie or in a primetime role. But I think soap acting does involve a tiny bit of scenery chewing from time to time, I guess. It's all about "selling it" ...

     

    And I don't care if Heinle won an Emmy. So did Natalia Livingston and Grandma Boring from AMC. It's not a high mark anymore ...

     

    I mean, I never disliked Heinle on any other soap ... she just isn't Victoria to me. Was I wrong in thinking she was more 'alive' in her other roles? I really do feel she's been checked out. More so after Miller exited. IDK. She's just never worked for me.

     

    It seems so obvious that Heather is better as Victoria and Heinle would be more suited for Katie on B&B. But at least Tom earns some Emmy's for B&B so there's that. I bet Heinle would have been dumped years ago if she were playing Katie ... just saying ...

    Sorry Kman101 I understand you don't like Amelia and I see you making references to other actors or characters from other soaps,  who I do not know. I mainly have watched Y&R and don't really know these other characters or actors you mentioned.  

     

    I do get what you are saying of course. 

  5. On 3/27/2019 at 7:16 PM, KMan101 said:

     

    I still live in a dream world where Brad (and of course Colleen and even Cassie) was never killed and we aren't subjected to 10 years of Stallion Dollar Bill on B&B. I also still live in a dream world where Heather Tom and Amelia Heinle switched places and were in the roles they should be in 

    It has always been my fervent wish Brad be brought back and along with Colleen.  It always has been and hasn't changed. 

     

    I also would be ok with Heather Tom back with Victoria.  It would probably be better for the show. 

  6. 2 hours ago, Antoyne said:

    Still odd to think he’s actually gone and we’ve officially seen the last of Neil. I actually still haven’t watched his final episode.

    Ditto...While it started I then had to shut off in the middle as it was hurting me to see it...I have it taped and will watch but felt it was too much at the moment.  

    2 hours ago, Vanguardian said:

    These photos of him are just beautiful. So handsome and youthful and kinda "boy next door" looking. For me, it just reiterates why this all feels so surreal.

     

    If you give me some time I have loads more and will post in a few days....Glad you like them. I just get a little sad looking and at times I get the courage to post. A little too fresh and emotions go up and down cause it is so fresh, not to mention, we grew with him on screen and he was way way too young. 

  7. 46 minutes ago, YRfan23 said:

    I just still can't believe he's gone :(  it's one of those weird moments now, when I realize how real this is...

     

    +1......

    1 hour ago, ajsp35801 said:

     

    I'm sorry but this is ridiculous. You expect us to talk about KSJ but never mention what his representation meant for black people in daytime? Some people have the luxury of loving KSJ/Neil without the added weight of finally seeing someone who looks like them on the show or even seeing someone but not noticing.  That's great. But resenting others who have an added bonus of seeing and noticing and speaking appreciatively of it along with calling out TPTB for how they treated him and black characters is the very definition on the worst kind of privilege. Everyone doesn't have to love or speak about KSJ the way you do. They are allowed different emotions. Your way isn't the only right way.  

     

    As you should be able to tell by now from all the black actors from daytime who spoke out, KSJ knew what he meant for black folks and the genre. He knew!  Rome Flynn spoke about how KSJ pulled him aside to discuss the responsibility he carried being a black male in daytime and what that meant. KSJ respected that. But because it makes you uncomfortable, you want us to ignore an integral part of KSJs career and Neil's existence. To do so makes it more about you than him. And it ain't about you! 

     

    Honoring KSJ without mentioning his legacy of representation is like honoring MLK without mentioning the civil Rights movement. Like I said, ridiculous! 

     

    Mmmhmm. *skeptical*

     

    NO you didn't get my post. I meant speaking of other peoples issues other than KSJ...I don't want to dictate anything at all but I was just offering an opinion...I never told people they can't and I wouldn't, just my opinion is all. I would not try to dictate anything....

     

    I also didn't say my way was the only way. I wouldn't say or feel that.

     

    You are "twisting completely" what I felt was right in my opinion.....Then to say that I think..... my way is the only way which I didn't ever say nor would I nor do I feel that....I don't know where you got that from?

     

    Just trying to bring peace and bring peeps together. I guess it didn't work out too well....

     

    Which I see I was attacked for and also cause I answer people some think I am trying to have the last word??? Geeze....I was not, just being polite to answer and explain but as I am told "nobody gives a damn  what I think" and "I should shut the hell up"...Hurtful.  No matter the difference in opinion.... I wouldn't say that to somebody...

     

    Goodnight.

     

     

  8. 1 hour ago, Khan said:

    I am so damn sick and tired of people taking it upon themselves to dictate what is and is not appropriate for this-or-that thread, as if they own this godforsaken board.

     

    You don't think this is the right time or place to discuss TPTB's treatment of KSJ, Victoria Rowell or any other African-American actors, in daytime or in general?  Fine.  Duly noted.  Now, either ignore the ongoing discussion, or participate in a different thread.  Either way, shut the hell up -- because, frankly, my dear, no one gives a damn.

     

     

    Believe me, if KSJ has gone to "a better place," then he's resting just fine.

     

    I didn't try to dictate anything. I gave my opinion on something but I wasn't do blatantly rude as you to me to shut hell up.....It's funny you not once answer my post but only to insult and tell me to shut the hell up? I thought I was allowed as other posters said to speak my opinion.

     

    I guess not cause it showed here you have zero self control and attacked me just because I mentioned it was an honor thread for him....I have never told anybody what to post but if somebody is going to insult things and expect me not to give my opinion I feel it's wrong and to attack me as you have is blatantly wrong. I didn't attack anybody I spoke my peace and was explaining myself to whom questioned me.

     

    I wont speak of VR and her issues as I feel it's not the place but I don't feel KsJ was treated badly as he never had issues with TPTB, he was on the show and obviously shown very happy with the cast for 28 years in interviews and videos.

     

    No need to attack and hurl insults as well as to tell me to "shut the hell up" as nobody cares what I have to say... Thank you for that.....

  9. 14 minutes ago, Chris B said:

     

    You can speak on whatever you want lol. You’re the one who was complaining about what people were talking about. As a black person who valued the iconic legacy of the 90s black characters, I’ll continue to mention all of it because it applies and it matters. 

     

    I never said you couldn't. I just felt there is a time and place as this is his thread to honor him that was all....

     

    I guess we just see it different as this is about his resting in peace thread. I guess you don't see it that way but that is OK.....

     

    I may not agree with you but it that is OK.....I also may not agree about certain other things but I am for civil rights for ALL people.... was brought up that way wouldn't ever change that.... then again even if I wasn't I know my heart and mind would have been that way already....I also may not agree that everything had to do with race …..but I am I really good and fair person who doesn't label races EVER and loves people who are good nomatter their race,  religion.

     

    No point in carrying on, I am sure you get my point....

     

    May Kristoff rest peacefully

  10. I really loved this s/l with Neil....I just felt it was cut too short....

     

    I just cannot believe I won't see KSJ anymore with anything new. I can't get over that he is gone. Makes me so very sad. I still can't believe I see his name in a memorial.....Sometimes when things like this happen I question my faith.....maybe I shouldn't but I do...Had he be older it would have been easy to accept but not at such a young age....He had so much more time to enjoy life here.

     

    I remember her when she was on Star Trek and kissed Captain Kirk which was noted the 1st and most famous interracial kiss..

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    Gorgeous, beautiful sweet man.....

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  11. 3 hours ago, Chris B said:

     

    It’s pretty difficult to pay tribute to the legacy Kristoff is leaving behind if you don’t mention Victoria Rowell. That would be like Katherine with no Jill or Victor with no Nikki, they go hand in hand. Dru and Neil were a super couple with enduring popularity. I don’t think it’s a bad think to bring that up. Kristoff’s best work was opposite people like Shemar Moore, Victoria Rowell and Tonya Lee Williams.

     

    I don’t think anybody, including Rowell have made it about her. The issues they faced were similar. It’s like when there’s a major shooting and people say “now is not the time to discuss new gun laws.” That’s done to distract and get people off the hook. It’s the same with race issues, let’s just ignore it until everything is quiet and then these companies do the same thing over and over again. 

     

    I respectfully disagree AND nor did I say to speak about Doug Davidson or his issues....I can sense the condescension in your post. 

     

    I unlike some feel Neil was able to do well with others and alone on this show. It won him 2 Emmys and countless nominations along with loads of NAACP awards.

     

    There is a difference when you speak of VR and her issues on a "RIP thread for KSJ" then rather speaking of Dru the character. He has been on the show  and had many stories before and after VR with loads of story and also on the show for 28 years.

     

    I have seen it done elsewhere with over 1000 posts not mentioning VR or her issues....The character Dru sure, but nothing about her issues with the show or any deflecting off of KSJ....

     

    That is ok if you don't agree because I don't need validation as I have seen elsewhere and even on social media fan sites honoring KSJ without bringing VR's issues or other negative drama. 

     

    I just see it much different as speaking of his chemistry with characters rather than VR issues or anybody else's issues. I choose to honor and celebrate KSJ and Neil......Hope that is OK.

     

    Moving forward....Have a good night. 

  12. 2 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

    No offense to Amelia because I'm sure she meant well but I'd rather work at a place where I am treated as a valuable employee whose contributions are justly recognized and compensated than a family member.  Family sometimes contains members who take advantage of other members or take family members for granted.

    Some families are completely dysfunctional.  The soap opera itself  was a genre that dramatized family conflicts. 

    I've become wary of companies/businesses that claim to treat their employees like family.

    Obviously she meant well.....

     

    No offense to you that you have helped make a "Rest in peace thread of KSJ turned into Victoria Rowell" which I find sad and disgraceful with countless posts all about her issues with YR/Sony when this is about KSJ and honoring him

     

    I will leave the thread as I don't want to be part of disrespecting a beloved man who died tragically and it's VR is brought up nomatter when this is NOT about her. 

  13. 11 minutes ago, Faulkner said:

     

     

     

    That also made me cry...I saw this last night and I took a bunch a pics from twitter and instagram for another group who can't see all this. I love Don as well....KSJ had also so many who he didn't even work with in the industry who adored him as well...

     

    ATWT although no longer airing made a statement as well. So beautiful...

     

    People again were making comments about how nobody made statements. I told them people need time, they are devastated that a young, gorgeous talented man who was their friend is gone. So I showed them. If they could only see what is on FB from the same people and others who work with him, did not work with him but friends, writers, producers....It is HUGE the outpour....Rightfully so....

     

    I wish people would realize some can't even speak as their so upset/devastated…..Doesn't make their grief and devastation less. I know I made a few statements but had to stop cause it is so heartbreaking and upsetting. 

  14. 10 hours ago, DramatistDreamer said:

     

     I wish people would stop trying to quantify people's level of grief based on whether they post on Twitter, Facebook or 

     

    Exactly although the outpour was tremendous....

     

    I read the whole cast and crew are completely devastated, how could they not be...He was young, beautiful, talented and had so much to live for.... We are devastated....They worked side by side with him and he had many friends there and throughout the whole industry.  So we have to realize if we feel this way imagine their very dear friend and colleague?

     

    31 minutes ago, durk said:

    Kristoffs last airdate is tomorrow and a tribute episode on Friday.  I’m tearing up already 

    Tell me about it....I'm  welling up again. 

  15. 22 hours ago, ChitHappens said:

    In all honesty,  I don't ever recall anyone from a soap being so universally loved and adored.  I stopped reading the comments from other actors because I got so choked up.  

     

    same here...

    15 hours ago, Cat said:

    I just heard the news. Absolutely devastated. I have never known a Y&R without Kristoff on it. He was an icon, pure and simple, his presence filled the screen, and so did his heart. I am not surprised in any way to hear how beloved he was -- it was obvious that he was a kind, caring, lovely individual. 

     

    I was hoping to hear news of his return to Y&R in order to tune back in, truth be told. Something about that deep, reassuring voice, that presence, leapt off the screen.

     

    It devastes me that he may have succumbed to his depression like this. I know he is at peace now and reunited with his adored son but... I wish it didn't have to be this way. Not for a man as loving and as impactful as KSJ was. I hope that doesnt sound too selfish to say.

    Doesn't sound selfish at all. He had a lot to live for and I know losing a child is terrible nobody should have to go through that but if he did this to himself, I wish somehow he could have gotten the proper help..

     

    I am so sad, I need to stop looking and maybe we can make a thread celebrating his life instead.....I just also feel so awful for his daughters.  I so hope he knew how loved he was and as I said if he did this to himself. People need to try to help others we know dealing with this  and get them the proper help.  The people left behind when a person dies grieve but it ends up being tragic when it is a person so young who hasn't lived a long life. So unfair. 

  16. I'm so very upset...I can barely find the words I want to say. Please bear with me if I sound like I am going on and on.....I found out early afternoon and was instantly in tears....my I swelled....

     

    I have always been vocal wherever I post about the show in regards to KSJ and Neil....

     

    I have always loved him and his character...Always such a classy, gorgeous and talented man....I truly hope he as much as many feel he may have done it to himself. I wish that it will not be that way. It is so hard enough to know people so young pass away but in that way it hurts much more...

     

    I have always felt a lot of cast members feel like family especially since we have watched them for years and have gotten to know them and their characters well.... 

     

    I have been looking on Facebook at all the announcements which maybe wasn't such a good idea as I felt sick to see his name announced so many times that "he died at 52".....I should have signed off as I couldn't bear to keep seeing it....Hurt enough to know....I just kept saying please don't be real.....

     

    Many who know me know I loved him as an Actor and also his character along with his on screen family.  I got to see KSJ several times on various shows or interviews and you just know he was real.  So hard especially he was so young and have watched the show from the beginning. 

     

    Prayers for his daughters, family, friends and all who loved him.  May Kristoff be blessed in heaven. You will be so missed.

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