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  1. 2 hours ago, Franko said:

    Tonia going from (good) Grant to Frisco to Tony, who was also nearly paired with Ginny.

    I thought it was humorous in the summaries when Frisco randomly decides to set Tania free, just as Felicia was introduced.

     

    From the on screen writing to the off screen publicity they really tried to make Brad Maule into hunk.  From his intro (was he screwing his mother's inattentive nurse, or was Frisco doing the deed?) to those stories about romancing his fiance in Europe, there was a constant PR campaign to make us want to like him. Unfortunately, the actor just never gave off a hunky vibe.

     

    Although no PR campaign was a forceful as this ad for the new Teen Disco in town.  They have free hot dogs and soft drinks!

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  2. 25 minutes ago, Chris 2 said:

    the Aztec Treasure, which dragged on for nearly a year

    Reading the plot highlights of 1984 -  Lorena Sharpe (Monica's insta-cousin), her spa, the murder of Jimmy Lee's mother, the whiny little orphan Mike and his constantly crying mother Ginny, not to mention the two Grants who were differentiated only by the amount of mousse in their hair, - all make the Aztec Treasure seem worthy of a Pulitzer Prize.

  3. @franko called it Loving is on the move on the ABC daytime schedule (BTW no mention of if the Olympics were disruptive to ABC ratings).

     

    The obsession with weight continues, but this time its a guy so it is funny, unlike Laura Malone who have to give up breastfeeding her baby to lose 30 lbs.

     

     

    Of course, the irony of him "starving as an out of work actor" won't come true for a few more months

     

     

    Meanwhile, this little mentioned kiddo could have been the character of Theo on Y&R, and it wouldn't have required a retcon

     

    Remember the Alamo?  AW is taking Cecile to Majorca for the character's exit.  Meanwhile Tony Geary was ready to go to Mexico but had to settle for San Antonio, if I said it once, I've said it a thousand times, Felicia the blonde Aztec Princess would be cancelled by current social media mavens

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    On 3/2/2021 at 4:13 PM, Franko said:

    Something I've noticed while reading recaps of mid '80s AW: the murder stories tend to drag on a bit. For example, in 1984: David was shot in May but we didn't find out who actually did it until November.

    I find myself really into the David Thatcher murder mystery (as well as EON's Logan Swift's murder mystery).  Both are great examples of good plotting, (something propels the mystery forward every week, like Donna and her blue ring), it brings together a lot of disparate characters (although one wonders why Rachel Cory decided to go undercover in a dive bar to help Caitlin - were she and Sally even that close?), and the mystery is a useful tool to uncover other secrets around town (like Marley's parentage). 

  4. Upon further review Harry Dean Stanton was in the Wim Wenders' film Paris, Texas in 1984, (which won the Palm d'Or in Cannes that year), as well as the iconic film Repo Man.  So, one tends to think he was unavailable to play a part on One Life to Live, although he was in the soap parody Young Doctors in Love two years earlier.

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    Thus ends this thread's brief tangent into the life and career of Harry Dean Stanton...

     

    BUT, it's a helpful reminder that whether it is 1984 or 2021, you can't believe everything you read.

  5. So, I'm reading the 1984 pre-Olympics synopsis on Tumblr.  I recall Sky and Preacher's escape from the baddies in Mexico.  However, I hadn't remembered how forced the storyline was that created the need to go to Mexico and the literal cliffhanger.  

     

    While everyone in Montecello was trying to solve the masterfully setup mystery of who shot Logan, (in a locked room with a closed window), all of the sudden Alicia Van Dine gets caught up in a scheme to steal a chemical from one of Del's cronies.  The whole plot was a red herring, which wound up having nothing to do with Logan's murder.  Looking back, I would posit a guess that the network had a mandate for Loving, Ryan's Hope and EON to come up with an Olympics cliffhanger.  Then, EON wrote the Mexico trip (actually shot in Montauk), in order to not disrupt the planning of the ongoing mystery.  The same day a bomb was discovered at Greenberg's Deli on RH, and Jack got in a motorcycle accident after finding out that Dane was his biological father, while Mike and Jim were in a dark room when a shot went off on Loving.

     

    The reports at the time were that there was a lot of network arguing about airing the Olympics in daytime.  ABC was losing ratings to CBS due to the expansion of Price is Right.  There were fears that the audience would sample the other networks and never return.  However, ABC sports was heavily invested and needed the commercial income because of the 1980 winter Olympics that were cancelled.  The compromise was that LOV, RH, & EON went on a two week hiatus, and AMC, OLTL, and GH produced 40 minute episodes.   It is interesting to read the behind the scenes stories while reading the synopsis because it provides so much additional information that I was not privy to at the time (to be fair, I was in middle school when this all aired originally).  It is particularly interesting to think about a time when ABC daytime and ABC sports were run like two separate companies, before acquisitions made everything merge into one being.

     

    It is amusing to me that production used that footage in the opening montage, (which today looks like it was shot against a green screen to very poor effect), when the actual plot was so inconsequential.

  6. 1 minute ago, DRW50 said:

    By this time Harry Dean Stanton wasn't a big name, but was a very well-respected television and film actor. I'd think if he was on the show it would have been in a guest role, like Uta Hagen around this period.

    It's not on Stanton's IMDB so I think it's the same editor who headlined the article about Bill & Susan Hayes leaving DAYS with a title about Search for Tomorrow, and confused Loving with Capitol.  That editor needed an editor.

  7. Harry Dean Stanton was fired from OLTL? Wikipedia & Soap Central list Arlen Dean Snyder as the first actor in the role, so it may be another case of JMR's newspaper editor getting facts wrong.

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    If it's true, I will remember this the next I feel underappreciated at work; some people just don't recognize talent.

  8. Filed under "soaps had money to burn" file:

     

    Perhaps to mark the celebration of the premiere of Santa Barbara ( and their expensive sets) and the fact that ABC soaps were on an abbreviated Olympics schedule

     

    DAYS went on remote to New Orleans

     

    Whereas AW's remote was in rainy Rye, New York

     

    All of which is especially odd when you consider that AW spent the time and money for a remote just when Nancy Fragionne left due to a "snag" in her contract negotiations

     

     

    Also, one hopes that the reporting on Cusi Cram, Beth Maitland, and Laura Malone's weight would not be published in 2021

     

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  9. In today's news from yesterday:

     

    Soap fans are full of questions about new guy on Capitol

    but this fan gets straight to the point

     

    JMR has the full story on Laura Malone and her "feud" with Chris Rich.  As reported above, Chris and Nancy were "cold" to Laura upon her return from maternity leave, and Chris referred to her replacement as a breath of fresh air.  Both deny actively seeking her replacement, but apparently Laura was interviewed on TV after she was let go and expressed her troubles about the backstage life at AW@will81's scan is too unclear to repost here

     

    Speaking of backstage intrigue regarding co-stars, we get this new bit of info regarding the casting of Kimberly Brady

     

    Much like PC from Red Bank, NJ, I hope things work out for Meg Ryan

     

    But I'm no so sure about Rick Porter's prospects (What are novelty cosmetics?)

     

     

    And I think we all share CC's concern about AW's Sally's insta-kid, but Lynda thinks that rating justify the retcon. 

     

    Finally, much like the Queen herself, Lynda has begun to refer to herself using the royal "we"

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  10. July 1984's entries were like deja vu all over again.

     

    I have always maintained that Q&A's in the soap press are fake.  However 37 years after someone confused soaps with Hemingway in this question

    Our own @Mitch said this in the Soap You Couldn't Get Into thread

    Sunset Beach..its just played like a parody..kind of like "The Sun Also Rises," instead of a real soap. The actors were plastic, not sexy!

     

    I researched and found that the Carol Burnett Show soap parody was called "As the Stomach Turns" and the SCTV parody was titled "The Days of the Week", so I am unsure of the source of this confusion.

     

     

    And maybe JMR was so snippy about Eileen Fulton's return in this article:

     Because two weeks earlier he published this comment

     

    Finally is it possible that a young Ron Carlavatti was posing as PL from Toluca Lake when he wrote this question to Lynda Hirsch?

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  11. @SFK Its from January 1984 and the party marked the inauguration of the mansion set for Mark and Paula Denning

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    See my Soaps of Yesteryear thread for other examples of editors making headline mistakes

  12. @Chris 2 if you thought the Alec Baldwin material was catty I thought you should see some other fan opinions of the time

     

    I'm tickled both by this fan's derision of a baby actor, and Jon-Michael Reed's admonishment that not everyone can survive in daytime

     

    To be fair, Terri Vandenbosch was no Julianne Moore

     

    Ryan's Hope fan were also not happy

    And Lynda Hirsch feels its important to note that even men feel the same way

     

    As always Jon-Michael and Lynda are not fans of the Daytime Emmys

     

    However, when asked who should win this year Lynda went with James Mitchel. whose plot she derided for weeks prior

    Then there's this tidbit

     

    More off-screen drama - Gloria Loring and Alan Thicke are getting divorced and Tristan Rogers's divorce is messy

     

    In other news they retract the Marcy Walker gossip from last week

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  13. Anyone willing to guess from the outset as to the solution to the Charlie murder mystery?

     

    Will it be (a) a Nora Fulon EON situation wherein he was killed to cover up another secret in a coexisting plot, (b) killed by mistake with someone else as the intended victim, or (c) killed by a non-contract character in order to portray Sami, once again, as being wrongly accused of a crime?

     

    Extra points to anyone who can correctly predict how long it is before we find out the killer.

     

    My main concern with any Carlivati mystery is that usually there is no investigation or clues for the audience to play along.  Ron likes to tease a mystery with an explosive start, then nobody does anything to solve the crime for awhile, and finally there is a long expository dump where the whole thing gets explained.  I think he engenders such an adversarial relationship with the audience because he always plays his proverbial hand to close to the vest.  Bell, Slesar, and Marland either let the audience in on the plot early on by showing the killer and how they got caught, or they allowed there to be red herrings and other mystery devices to maintain the suspense.  I find that I can never predict the outcome of a Carlivati mystery because we never get all of the information until the end of the plotline.

     

    In my opinion, the right scenario would be to use the mystery in order to promote the relationship of Nicole and Rafe.  Nicole could suspect her rival Ava, which could interfere with Rafe's solving the crime.  Sami and John could get over their years of animosity by helping prove each other was innocent.  The secrets of the gambling ring could be blamed for the murder and it could all culminate in a takedown of the Vittali family, creating ongoing issues for Tripp, Ali, and Claire. 

  14. 1 hour ago, FrenchBug82 said:

    Not quite the same skill set.
    I am not defending cue cards; I think soaps should hire people who can do the above over giving them crutches. But the comparison with theater seems unfair to me.

    Agreed

     

    I think it is unfair to judge all actors who used cue cards with the broad stroke of being lazy.  As I mentioned on the prior page, soap scripts were notoriously rewritten at the last minute.  The single take nature of soap production may have relied on cue cards to maintain an efficient production.  Actors who deride cue cards in interviews are generally not talented enough to be able to read and act at the same time.  And, most soaps could no longer afford them as a luxury, so it is not a contemporary issue.

  15. Its a shame that no writer was able to successfully integrate Silver into a long term character.  Con artist Silver was so great at playing an All About Eve storyline with Erica, and while the long term potential as a thorn in Erica's side was intriguing, at some point there would have been a detente, which would have weakened both characters, making her redundant with the role that Kendall played in Erica's story later in the series.  Then, we had mousy Silver aka Noelle.  She was interesting contrast to Erica because she was so earnest while Erica was so flamboyant.  However, that contrast was later played out with the adult Bianca.  Finally, we had the recast Silver, who went from victim to psycho on a dime and could never sustain as a character over time.

     

    I like the idea of Silver in terms of what Erica might have been if she was not raised by Mona.  Silver had the capacity to be all of the self-centered parts of Erica, that wouldn't have been tempered by the relationship with Mona.  Mona was so intriguing to me because despite her patrician exterior, she had a history on the cabaret circuit, her best friend was Nick Davis (who, if I remember correctly, Mona suspected might have been Erica's actual father), and she wound up married to one of the richest guys in Pine Valley without really trying.  She was critical of Erica, but also she understood that her daughter was living out the life that she may have wanted for herself, if she had not been hurt by Eric.  The constant finger wagging kept Erica in line and reminded her that she deserved more than just being an object of men's desires.  Silver grew up with Goldie, who was never able to achieve a successful relationship after Eric Kane.  Goldie was such a narcissist that she named her daughter after herself, and then used her as a means of scoring an inheritance that she wrongly felt she deserved.   Silver should have been an interesting contrast to what might have been if Erica was left to her devices. 

     

    In the end, I guess most of the likely stories for Silver got played out by Bianca, Kendall, and even Brooke/Barbara.  But, I can't help but think about the lost potential of Erica having an ongoing sibling rivalry. 

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