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Everything posted by Emma1420

  1. I think the EP's probably had more power than we think they did on the ABC soaps. Frons clearly had favorite actors, but then so did Angela Shaprio the previous head of ABC Daytime. Afterall, she's the one that thought it was a fantastic idea to hire Linda Dano and have Rae infect AMC, OLTL, and GH. I hated a lot of JFP's tenure on GH. But, I think she was an EP, like many, that is really only as good as the HW. Which is probably why I enjoyed her run, for the most part, on GL. Who shot Roger was one of the best storylines of the 90's. Although I do think Guza as HW with JFP was a particularly bad combination. JFP has always skewed towards violence. She had Eden violently raped on SB, she killed off Maureen on GL, she had Frankie murdered on AW, etc., but typically those things were considered so violent because they weren't the norm. On GH, there were constant shootings, the panic room stuff, the killing off the Q's, a serial killer every twelve minutes. There was so much violence during JFP & Guza's run that you became almost immune to it. In terms of GH now, and FV. Well my biggest gripe about FV is he's more interested in hiring names rather than hiring actors to play characters. That and I do tend to think that FV has storyline ideas, but is unable to execute them. So the show is full of poorly written stories full of characters that half the audience barely knows. However, I think that is pretty much like most EP's with their own agenda.
  2. Recasts I loved: Rick Hearst as Alan-Michael on GL. Wendy Moniz as Dinah on GL. Genie Francis as Laura on GH. With all three of them, they took established characters and took them into adulthood. And they took characters that from my point of view were fine, if not a little bland to complex and interesting. Recasts I hated: Jacob Young as Lucky Spencer on GH...my eardrums took years to recover. The fact he won an emmy for his work there is disturbing. Pretty much any recast on ATWT after about 2000. Basically because every "recast" was really a new character with the old character's name and history. Hunt Block wasn't playing Craig, he was playing some guy with the same name. The same was true of Grayson McCouch's Dusty. I'm not opposed to characters changing and/or evolving or devolving, but they should at least have the same core. They shouldn't seem like a complete stranger. Most recasts fall more in the middle for me. And I think for some recasts their success is largely dependent on if the writer of the show or the EP thinks they are worth writing for.
  3. JFP had some issues. The biggest issue with her is that she's overly focused on the men. The women are expendable if they facilitated a story for the men. So storylines are built around the men's point of view too often than not, unless there is a strong HW who is female friendly. However, I'll always give her credit for hiring Michael Zaslow on OLTL after GL fired him. However, I tend to think a lot of EP's see women as expendable. Gloria Monty always valued characters (and the actors who played them) like Luke and Robert far more than Laura, Holly, or Anna. And/or EP's see women as only one of two archetypes. The angel or the bad girl. Versus men who could be many shades of gray. I think that has been an issue across the board with a lot of EP's and writers.
  4. I agree with this. Marina....ugh. I will never get past the fact that the writers thought it was a good idea to have two of her former Uncles (one of which could have been her daddy and at the time wanted to be her father) romantically involved with her. Which I'll also blame Ellen Wheeler for.
  5. I didn't care for Paul Rauch. But, that is mostly because I didn't care for his vision of GL. He was responsible for the clone storyline, the mob, the San Cristobel stuff. But, I'll give him credit for at least having a vision and for creating storyline that at least some viewers liked. And, for me the show was salvageable after his tenure. Which is always a sign to me that the EP has a different vision than I do versus being a horrible EP. I think the biggest problem with GL is that it probably needed to go off the air about 2-3 years before it actually did. At least shows like AW, AMC, etc., went off the air with some dignity. What makes me sad about GL, in particular, is that when it went off the air it was a shadow of its former self. And I have to say, I'm relieved that the Peapack era was a total disaster in the ratings, because at least there was little to no danger of any soap following in GL's footsteps.
  6. It was a combination of both of them. The production values were terrible. But, that alone wasn't enough to kill the show. If the writing had been good and the acting had been solid then I think that the show could have overcome the horrible production. But, the writing wasn't good. And the last 5 years were particularly terrible. The show seemed to be grasping at straws desperately trying to make things work. And I don't think many of the younger more inexperienced actors on the show could cope with the lack of rehearsal and the bad writing. So their performances were pretty terrible. I tried to watch in 2005 and I simply couldn't. Too many of the characters that I knew had been twisted into pretzels that they didn't make any sense. And that was before the disaster that was the Peapack era. When it didn't look like the actors had done their own make-up.
  7. I agree with a lot of this. I think a lot of EP's are just not a great fit for the show that they are producing. Or at least their vision of the show simply doesn't mesh with mine as a viewer. But, I do think that there are some EP's who are simply incompetent. I think Ellen Wheeler fits in that category.
  8. I agree. She's a great actress, and to me she was always believable as both a romantic heroine and as someone off her rocker. However, the writing is a mess on GH, and Nina is a mess of a character. So it will be interesting to see if CW can overcome those huge issues. Although I think if anyone can make that character work, CW is one of the few actresses that could.
  9. I was not a fan of Rauch as EP of GL at all. Primarily because of the whole clone and Holly kidnapping kids mess. Well that and my two least favorite characters were Phillip and Harley and I felt like that area was completely dominated by the two of them. However, I do think that those were probably personal preference things for me, versus show killing moves. The same way I thought Claire Labine's version of GH was horrible. Joseph Hardy is someone I had never heard of, but after looking him up, he makes complete sense.
  10. It's a shame the Hulu reboots didn't work. I agree that PP bit off more than they could chew. I think if PP had picked one show, had a smaller cast, and had started more conservatively (say 2-3, 30 minute episodes a week) it might have worked. Unfortunately, I don't know that any other production company will ever take a similar risk because of that experiment. I actually wonder if the way to go isn't to try the audio format again. Podcasts are so popular, that perhaps moving back to the "radio" format using that method might work. The Archers is still crazy popular, and they've always been radio only. The Peapack stuff on GL was horrific. I don't give Wheeler any credit at all. It wasn't just that the show suddenly looked like it was being recorded on her iphone, it was also that so many other corners were being cut (the lack of rehearsal for the actors being the most blatant). And I tried to watch the last week of that show, and I couldn't. To me it wasn't even recognizable as GL.
  11. I didn't hate Chris Goutman during the first half of his tenure at ATWT. To me he was like any other EP. He brought on new characters, had his pets, and recast and redefine older characters. However, I also like Sheffer's ATWT, or at least I liked a lot of the stories he created. Although I could have done without the endless Cabot crap. I think the last 4-5 years weren't that good, and I think the description of them being aimless and kind of soulless is pretty accurate. However, I give him a lot of credit for not taking ATWT down the same road as GL with horrendous production values. I didn't realize that Ellen Wheeler had been Chris Goutman's protege. That explains a lot about her love affair with recasting, deSORASing, and completely gutting characters. I can see the comparison to Valenti to Goutman. The production values on GH have remained okay, but the show, with a few exceptions, seems pretty bland and soulless. One of the problems I think that every soap has/had is that It's the same 10-15 EP's and HW's who have been writing and running these shows for the last 40 years, and I don't know that they grasped how the audience was changing. I realize that Mal Young was a disaster on Y&R, but I at least give Y&R some credit for trying something new and not just hiring an EP from another show.
  12. So I've been thinking for the soaps that were cancelled who the worst executive producers ended up being? For years, I blamed the demise of shows like OLTL and GL on JFP. However, recently I've changed my mind. She made some mistakes (killing Maureen, etc.), but I don't think she was the most destructive force on those shows. For me the worst EP on any soap is and always has been Ellen Wheeler. Ellen Wheeler destroyed any production values that GL ever had. She took a struggling show and ground it into dust. So I was wondering what other EP's have I missed as being destructive and show destroying?
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