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From your fingers to the writers mind..,I have thought, moreso hoped, this sense it was revealed that Sharon changed the results. And it would be the final and well deserved insult to Phyllis. Besides, if Phyllis comes back, she will be paired with Jack. Might as well give them a kid.

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Jack deserves so much better than Phyllis. YR has thrived w/o her and it will do the same w/o Miller. Let those egomaniacs go and never be heard from again.

Jack needs a hot woman who's not obsessed with someone else.

As for Friday's show:

Still gushing over Hillary! Love her! Thought it was funny that CK's Lily was calling someone skinny. Too funny! Hill is twice the woman Lily thinks she is. Lily can stay isolated with Cane while Hill makes her mark on the entire canvas! Lily is going to have a stroke once Devon falls for Hill! I can't wait!

Jill continues to call Hill "the lovely assistant". That is so cute. Jill, you will be making certain no harm comes to Hill soon enough.

Adam/Chels Puke! Gag! And all that.

Kelly can just go! I see no need for her, but if she escorts BM off, so beit. I am indifferent to BM, but I don't like performers taking a show against its will. He can go! Hopefully, Bacteria are over before DT gets here. He needs a hot woman with great hair (I'll settle for reasonably decent hair)!

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Agreed about Phyllis. Anytime someone says that the show needs her, I wonder if we are in the same world. This show has not skipped a beat. That might have something to do with her being backburned for months before her departure. But it hasn't. And neither has it struggled in the ratings. Same for Billy Miller. 6 months from now, I doubt anyone cares he left.

I wonder if CK have figured out yet that Lily is suffering in this pairing with Cane. I wonder if she looks at what is being done with Hilary and think that could have been her...only if She hadn't been so supportive of Lane fans rabidness. If maybe she had told them to be patient and let lily flex her wings.

I can't wait for lily to find that one of her "favorite men" is keeping time with Hilary. She will be pissed. I have to admit that lily is much more entertaining in scenes with Hilary. And she will be shocked that Devon has gone against her wishes. She is so accustomed to all the men in her life being all about her. Not this time sweetheart. I read some comments saying that the writers don't know Devon, he would never go against lily or say anything against her. Well it's a new day! How many times have Lane fans said Devon needs to stay out of lily's life and get one of his own...well, that is exactly what he is doing.

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HK to me is practically interchangeable with MO and the kid who plays dayplayer and insta-love interest Courtney. Same hair, same voice (kinda) and same underwritten character traits. Having said that, I do like how she is this uncertain, slightly awkward young girl just trying to figure stff out, and I really like Sharon mentoring her. I do think she has chem with JM but the scenes with the Abbotts have had more spark (the Newmans are a bore IMO), and she and PB have seemed to hit it off in their scenes together.

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I am seeing that Hartley sawyer is out as Kyle (DC reporting). I think it might have to do with him making his Newman rival in the making look like a pipsqueak...and just when I was warming up to him in the role. Also hoping that it might have something to do with summer truly being an abbot when the dust settles and they don't want him around to deal with "their feelings" for each other. Oh please soap gods...let it be.

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That Summer & Kyle SL was a total bust. The writers seem hesitant to even mention it now that Kyle supposedly has more story again.

Interesting that you think he was let go because he outplayed RA on screen and made him look like a pipsqueak. Could be true.

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I wonder whether Summer being radically SORASed threw JM for a loop. It seems as though he hasn't been able to finesse the relationship since then. He's not exactly the best actor so that may have added to the struggle. It's very telling that Summer has more scenes with Sharon than Nick these days.

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If that is the reason, they need to get rid of Noah as well. First off, Sharon Case as this guy's mother is a travesty! I don't buy it one damn bit. Then to have that moron as a business rival or any sort is insulting to the viewers. Put him in the damn mail room!

If they are going to skip a generation and move on to the next Newman/Jabot Corporate battle, they need to do better. I'm just not sure how because these guys are too young to make it believable. It's like Amanda Cory coming from boarding school and being a Cory Publishing executive at 18! I'm still traumatized by that!

It's time for Nick to go back into the business [with Jack if he can't work for his father] and Adam as well as Devon to duke it out in the boardroom.

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If Sawyer is indeed being released (or left), I tend to believe that the height differential at least played a part in it, knowing how much physical appearances matter to JFP. They have a lot invested in RA, who has gained in popularity (at least from what I've seen on some online comments) and contrast that with all the whining that happened when the role of Kyle was recasted with Sawyer.

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Interesting about summer having more scenes with Sharon. I always thought JM did very well with child actors but not so much with adults. I can see him having trouble figuring out how to play daddy to a grown up girl. A problem he wouldn't necessarily have with a grown up son because they can be "just buds". That doesn't work with a daughter. He should seek KSJs advice for how he plays it because Neil and lily's relationship is just doting enough not to be strange and folks buy their affection. KSJ also has grown up girls to pull inspiration from.
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I don't think he has to be in the mail room, but he shouldn't be a VP either. They need to bring in other older more experienced business folks, like Neil, Victoria, Nick, and even Cane and have these younger guys working for/under them. When they gave Devon an internship, he worked under Neil and it was believable. The same way it was believable when Devon worked under cane at first at jabot. It made sense. Having these guys pitching to Victor is ridiculous. They should be helping put proposals together not talking to the CEO about ideas.

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Since Victor has taken an interest in Devon again and it is his grandmother's company, it would make sense that these two be the rivalry. Considering both their heights, one would think JFP would have thought of this. It's not like they will acknowledge their one time friendship now that Noah has Tyler. Might as well make them antagonistic.

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Kyle was finally starting to work as a character for the first time since SORAS. I saw HS has some web series he's been working on.

http://talkbacker.com/tv/tv-news/geek-sundry-presents-caper-superhero-comedy/id=17863

Hell no to Nick going back into business. He sucks in it. Its time for Victoria to get serious about it.

I don't thing Devon is the corporate type. He like Noah are just too artsy like. That doesn't mean I want them to start singing again either though.

I'm not surprised Sharon and Summer have more scenes than Nick and Summer because they always bring in SC when JM can't sell something.

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