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[Vee]

No, Genie I blame on Jill. I think they're both just being very nice about it. There were too many stories at that time. AFAIC, even with the allowances I sometimes give her, she's still about 80% Devil. Her GH was unwatchable amateur hour when she was alone, but then she became the facilitator for Guza and helped his crew disenfranchise a slew of female actors. She dumped Anna Lee, too. Then, when the strike hit and JFP was left in charge again around 2008 or so, what show did she put on the air? A slightly classed-up version of the same amateur night, third-tier soap [!@#$%^&*] she peddled at GH in 2001 and at AW in the '90s - weird ladies with color/clothes fetishes (Claudia and her red shoes/Angel Sorel and her white then red wardrobe), a random-ass storyline for her pal Rick Hearst with a newbie that came out of fuckin' nowhere that only marginalized Ric's character further. I'm sure if she'd had more time A Martinez would've come on back as Adventure Man Roy.

 

She might be doing slightly better at Y&R because she's not writing it, but her touches and interests are still clear. I give it a year before Steve Burton's Dylan turns out to be a Newman or Chancellor, tops.

Edited by Vee, 06 February 2013 - 05:08 PM.

[lovely_m]

Didn't Amber Tamblyn also hate or had difficulties with JFP?

[Vee]

She drove Amber off, too, yes. And Sarah Brown. A lot of people. Stephen Nichols, etc.

 

She tried to can Jackie Zeman and send Bobbie to Ferncliff as the psycho wench trying to harm St. Melissa of Another World, but Tony Geary wouldn't have it.

Edited by Vee, 06 February 2013 - 05:27 PM.

[MrQuartermaine]

She drove Amber off, too, yes. And Sarah Brown. A lot of people. Stephen Nichols, etc.

 

She tried to can Jackie Zeman and send Bobbie to Ferncliff as the psycho wench trying to harm St. Melissa of Another World, but Tony Geary wouldn't have it.

 

 

The list just goes on and on when it comes to GH stars that Jill didn't get along with.

 

She tried to do a lot of things to Bobbie that Tony wouldn't stand for, such as recasting the role with Colleen Zenk.

[lovely_m]

She drove Amber off, too, yes. And Sarah Brown. A lot of people. Stephen Nichols, etc.

 

She tried to can Jackie Zeman and send Bobbie to Ferncliff as the psycho wench trying to harm St. Melissa of Another World, but Tony Geary wouldn't have it.

 

I wasn't sure about Amber even though I had heard rumors about that, but I  thought she may had left to go on to greener pastures.

 

Tamara Braun leaving because she couldn't get a break or vacation, was that due to JFP, Guza, or Frons?

[CarlD2]

The list just goes on and on when it comes to GH stars that Jill didn't get along with.

 

She tried to do a lot of things to Bobbie that Tony wouldn't stand for, such as recasting the role with Colleen Zenk.

 

I'd never heard about that with Colleen. I thought she was in the middle of big story at ATWT at that time. Or was this later?

[EastMA2]

It's hysterical how so many people take speculation and rumors and make them facts. Most times, there are 2 sides to a story. Admittedly I am a big JFP fan. Met and spoke to her at length 1 time; private messaged her several times on Facebook and I do know 4 people who were office staff at SB and GL while Jill was there and 1 of them who followed her to GH. That's my history with JFP.
Kudos to Beverlee McKinsey! She stood up for what she believed. I've met Beverlee too, briefly when she was on GL. I was scared of her because of a tough reputation but she was a true sweetheart. But I think this so called hatred between the 2 is probably exaggerated. By that time, Bev seemed ready to stop working regularly. She admitted that she took a GH job in '94 for the health insurance and then she never worked regularly again so I think that if JFP was the only problem, Bev could have found somewhere else to work, had she so desired. But she didn't seem to want to work any longer, anywhere. In her infamous TV Guide interview, I didn't take it at all to be personal against Jill. Just to TPTB in general that someone beat them at their own game. Bev wanted to talk to Jill, but she was on vacation. I think that if it were truly personal against Jill, Bev would have just said screw it and not tried to talk to her before her last day. And didn't Bev write Jill a note? I know that if I hated my boss and could leave my job with no repurcussions, I surely wouldn't try to contact them or write them a note. I'd just think screw you,I'm outta here!
Robin Strasser is mentioned here. But no one has mentioned that on Robin's hotline, in her own words a few years ago, Robin admitted that she lied in the press about a situation with Jill. Robin publically apologized to Jill. I somehow don't think that anyone forces Robin to do anything so I do believe Robin when she said that she lied about Jill.

[MrQuartermaine]

I'd never heard about that with Colleen. I thought she was in the middle of big story at ATWT at that time. Or was this later?

 

This was Summer 2010 as ATWT was preparing to go off the air.

[CarlD2]

Oh. I had no idea Tony even had that much power by 2010. 

 

I'm glad they didn't do it, although I would have enjoyed seeing Colleen in some role, just not Bobbie.

[BingCherry]

I wasn't sure about Amber even though I had heard rumors about that, but I  thought she may had left to go on to greener pastures.

 

AT was unhappy with how JFP dealt with other actors, as well as where she was taking the Emily/Zander story and vocalized it fairly loudly to her.  She was willing to stay on, but only wanted to sign a one-year deal while JFP wanted a longer commitment.  That's how I've always heard it.

[JONNYSBRO]

 Cureentl its Jennifer Johns who was Y&R's costume designer for decades was FIRED BY JFP for her own FOJ. Jill really is a nasty vicious one at firing. I feel bad for Jackie she was fired by Jill during Christmas on her 30th anniversary and barely seen again. During the Monty/Riche ERA Bobbie was always frontburner and Jackie got amazing stories. Jill has always managed to help her friends but the ones she doesn't like they are out on there asses. JFP really is a witch hey the woman always finds a job and gets work LMAO. Whoever wuld have thought Jill would be crowed the highest paid EP job in the biz at the number 1 soap ousting a Bell. She is a cunning, tough bitch who had made it in the industry.

[Y&RWorldTurner]

Jennifer Johns needed to be fired at least 10 years ago. 

[greens_dupres]

AT was unhappy with how JFP dealt with other actors, as well as where she was taking the Emily/Zander story and vocalized it fairly loudly to her.  She was willing to stay on, but only wanted to sign a one-year deal while JFP wanted a longer commitment.  That's how I've always heard it.

 

Such a shame JFP allowed such a good young actress to exit when she was willing to stay. Wonder what AT didn't like about Emily/Zander. My 13 year old self loved them then. 

[y&r_fan]

 Cureentl its Jennifer Johns who was Y&R's costume designer for decades was FIRED BY JFP for her own FOJ. Jill really is a nasty vicious one at firing. I feel bad for Jackie she was fired by Jill during Christmas on her 30th anniversary and barely seen again. During the Monty/Riche ERA Bobbie was always frontburner and Jackie got amazing stories. Jill has always managed to help her friends but the ones she doesn't like they are out on there asses. JFP really is a witch hey the woman always finds a job and gets work LMAO. Whoever wuld have thought Jill would be crowed the highest paid EP job in the biz at the number 1 soap ousting a Bell. She is a cunning, tough bitch who had made it in the industry.

No.

If you're going to say JFP has been harmful to Y&R, you're going to have to make better arguments than "she fired the costume designer" or "she ousted a Bell". As Alvin said, Y&R has needed a new costume designer for over a decade, and this particular Bell (by marriage) was the worst thing ever to happen to the show and should never have had the job in the first place.

Aside from the music, I can't fault JFP for any of the changes she's made to the show.

Edited by y&r_fan, 06 February 2013 - 08:27 PM.

[ChitHappens]

Such a shame JFP allowed such a good young actress to exit when she was willing to stay. Wonder what AT didn't like about Emily/Zander. My 13 year old self loved them then. 

 

There was no great loss when Amber left.  She was mediocre at best and not very attractive. 

[Vee]

There was no great loss when Amber left.  She was mediocre at best and not very attractive. 

 

Oh, please.

[EastMA2]

 
AT was unhappy with how JFP dealt with other actors, as well as where she was taking the Emily/Zander story and vocalized it fairly loudly to her.  She was willing to stay on, but only wanted to sign a one-year deal while JFP wanted a longer commitment.  That's how I've always heard it.

And of course you were there to know this! See, this is where rumors get started. Actors do NOT negotiate contracts with Executive Producers.

[frequentsoapfan]

Jennifer Johns needed to be fired at least 10 years ago. 

Yeah for the most part Y&R's wardrobe has actually improved even though they need to stop buying some of that stuff in sample sizes. But wardrobe on Y&R for the past few years has looked downright tacky.

 

I wish she would fire the hair and makeup people next. They have been hit and miss for awhile now.

[CSF]

She tried to do a lot of things to Bobbie that Tony wouldn't stand for, such as recasting the role with Colleen Zenk.

 

Wait, what?!  When? 

[dragonflies]

Oh, please.

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