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#1 VirginiaHamilton

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:14 PM

Lately, I've been reminiscing about the vicious stan war between John/Natalie and John/Evangeline on OLTL and while it was, by far, the worst that I've ever seen, I'm sure that there were plenty others that were far worse that unfolded during the decades-long existence of soaps.

 

So, whether it's be a rivalry between stans of certain characters or shippers of certain couples, I'd like to know which stan war(s) qualifies/deserves the title as the worst ever...

 

What say you, SON?


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:15 PM

JaSam vs Liason

Guza vs Ron (lol)


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:29 PM

GL had nasty stuff, at one point driving Laura Wright to need security. And all for couples who were the equivalent of bran flakes.


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:31 PM

Sharon versus Phyllis as known as Shick versus Phick...people remain irrational and vicious to this day.

 

Brooke versus Taylor as known as Bridge versus Tridge.

 

But I do believe that the worst and nastiest of all time was the JoWars...Jolie versus JoVan. That is probably because Evangeline didn't stand a fighting chance in the long run against Natalie as far as the regime was concerned. She was just being used from the start as angst for Jolie but quickly stole the show as JoVan eclipsed them in chemistry and common sense SL and acting wise.  Yet TPTB refused to budge on their end game of Jolie regardless of how lackluster in comparison. This made for a contentious situation. If the writers had decided to throw Evangeline under the bus for Jolie that might have made things easier. But they didn't. They kept her very decent. Then insisted on keeping the antie-heroine the same as a schemer just assuming that people would root for her anyway. I never understood these choices in storytelling. I mean really, did the majority want to see the nice girl "lose"?


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:41 PM

GL had nasty stuff, at one point driving Laura Wright to need security.

 

Wait, what?

 

I'm almost afraid to ask, but since I'm too nosy not to - what in the hell was this in reference to?  I honestly can't remember a storyline of hers that would elicit such vitriol.


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:44 PM

Wait, what?

 

I'm almost afraid to ask, but since I'm too nosy not to - what in the hell was this in reference to?  I honestly can't remember a storyline of hers that would elicit such vitriol.

 

Apparently she got threats because at one point GL was going to pair her with Danny (Paul Anthony Stewart), which enraged some of the fans of his relationship with Michelle (Nancy St. Alban). It upset me, because - beyond the obvious reasons that stupid and dangerous people were sending threats - Wright and Stewart still had first-rate chemistry, as they also had on Loving. Couples like Danny/Michelle helped drive me away from GL for years.


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:45 PM

JaSam vs Liason

 

As annoying as that stan war was (and continues to be), I don't think it had anything on JoVan vs. Jolie during its peak - unless all Rebecca Herbst fans banded together to shade Kelly Monaco at a fan gathering or a JaSammer sent KM handmade jewelry that symbolized her character's union with the roided goiter...

 

(Can't believe that I even typed that with a straight face...)


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:49 PM

Brooke versus Taylor as known as Bridge versus Tridge.

 

Bridge vs. Tridge?  Now, I know the battle wages on to this day (even though Ridge and his scarf have moved on), but I can't remember either fanbase being outright vicious to one another and the actors that play the characters.  Perhaps, this was before my time...?


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:50 PM

Apparently she got threats because at one point GL was going to pair her with Danny (Paul Anthony Stewart), which enraged some of the fans of his relationship with Michelle (Nancy St. Alban). It upset me, because - beyond the obvious reasons that stupid and dangerous people were sending threats - Wright and Stewart still had first-rate chemistry, as they also had on Loving. Couples like Danny/Michelle helped drive me away from GL for years.

 

I never knew about that.  Fans are [!@#$%^&*] nuts!

 

Nancy was the worst Michelle, and when they did the arc of Michelle losing her memory, she was supposed to be this sexy vixen.  It was aweful.  Not even believable and just aweful! 


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:53 PM

I never knew about that.  Fans are [!@#$%^&*] nuts!

 

Nancy was the worst Michelle, and when they did the arc of Michelle losing her memory, she was supposed to be this sexy vixen.  It was aweful.  Not even believable and just aweful! 

 

You don't think constantly smacking gum is sexy? I guess Grease was wrong :(


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#11 VirginiaHamilton

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:54 PM

Apparently she got threats because at one point GL was going to pair her with Danny (Paul Anthony Stewart), which enraged some of the fans of his relationship with Michelle (Nancy St. Alban). It upset me, because - beyond the obvious reasons that stupid and dangerous people were sending threats - Wright and Stewart still had first-rate chemistry, as they also had on Loving. Couples like Danny/Michelle helped drive me away from GL for years.

 

1. Was Manny even that popular with NSA in the role?  I was under the impression that their prime was during the BJL/G years and that stans longed for those days.

 

2. I'm trying to rack my brain on when LW and PAS were paired together on Loving, as it's been almost 20 years since I've seen that show.

 

3. Were those two better than she was with DAM (my favorite pairing of hers)?


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:58 PM

I think Sonny and Carly fans vs. the universe was the worst I've ever seen.  They had an unsettling level of access to BTS at one point, including a number of creative personnel, and used that to try and get [!@#$%^&*] across - like slandering some actors and, IIRC, at one point trying to convince a sympathetic writer to go with a story which made Kristina the product of Alexis's rape by Sonny's old bodyguard Johnny. (And said writer reportedly tried to make that happen.) They believed they ran everything, and lost their minds.

 

I don't think the Jolie/Jovan stuff, bad though it was, really compares to the old school fan wars.  There were moments that are up there, though, like when a couple Evangeline fans decided to call the NAACP because John and Evangeline broke up.  And yes - that did happen.  They try to play it off now, but I remember it.  And if it's true some Jolie actually made some sort of fabled "ass cake" and sent it to the studio because that tired-ass couple had finally broken up, then that too.


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:59 PM

The TnB vs TnT wars on back on Mediadomian were basically the Bloods and Crips. I still have burn scars from the flaming. laugh.png


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:01 PM

Sharon versus Phyllis as known as Shick versus Phick...people remain irrational and vicious to this day.

 

Brooke versus Taylor as known as Bridge versus Tridge.

 

But I do believe that the worst and nastiest of all time was the JoWars...Jolie versus JoVan. That is probably because Evangeline didn't stand a fighting chance in the long run against Natalie as far as the regime was concerned. She was just being used from the start as angst for Jolie but quickly stole the show as JoVan eclipsed them in chemistry and common sense SL and acting wise.  Yet TPTB refused to budge on their end game of Jolie regardless of how lackluster in comparison. This made for a contentious situation. If the writers had decided to throw Evangeline under the bus for Jolie that might have made things easier. But they didn't. They kept her very decent. Then insisted on keeping the antie-heroine the same as a schemer just assuming that people would root for her anyway. I never understood these choices in storytelling. I mean really, did the majority want to see the nice girl "lose"?

The Jo wards were the worse especially with all the racism involved. 


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:01 PM

1. Was Manny even that popular with NSA in the role?  I was under the impression that their prime was during the BJL/G years and that stans longed for those days.

 

2. I'm trying to rack my brain on when LW and PAS were paired together on Loving, as it's been almost 20 years since I've seen that show.

 

3. Were those two better than she was with DAM (my favorite pairing of hers)?

 

I think that the BJL years were more popular with the broader audience (although I'm pulling that out of my ass), but the NSA/PAS fans were very vocal.

 

LW and PAS were Casey and Ally on Loving. He was her great love, they were together off and on from about 92 or 93-95 until his death via drug overdose.

 

She barely got started with PAS so I can't say she was better with him. I thought she and DAM were wonderful together. I actually liked all of her pairings on GL until Bradley Cole came back as Jeffrey. BC as Jeffrey made my skin crawl.


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:02 PM

I never posted at Mediadomain, as its reputation was so bad even in the early, early 2000s; I only went there to look at the insanity.  And it was insane.  [!@#$%^&*] stupidest place I have ever seen in my life.  And there was always that open-mouthed little bitch in the picture gawking at you in the stock "discuss the soap operas!" picture whenever you arrived at the site.  She drove me nuts.


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:02 PM

I think Sonny and Carly fans vs. the universe was the worst I've ever seen.  They had an unsettling level of access to BTS at one point, including a number of creative personnel, and used that to try and get [!@#$%^&*] across - like slandering some actors and, IIRC, at one point trying to convince a sympathetic writer to go with a story which made Kristina the product of Alexis's rape by Sonny's old bodyguard Johnny. (And said writer reportedly tried to make that happen.) They believed they ran everything, and lost their minds.

 

Damn. That's crazy. I'd never heard of that.


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:02 PM

The TnB vs TnT wars on back on Mediadomian were basically the Bloods and Crips. I still have burn scars from the flaming. laugh.png

 

LMAO! 

 

Vee, They called the NAACP?  No! 

 

 

I can see this thread is going to keep me laughing for a very long time!  Thanks, VH! 


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:05 PM

Yeah, they try to pretend like that never happened now.  I'm sure not all of them thought that way, but some did.  It was the culmination of a period where the groupthink for some of those people was that if you ever said anything against Evangeline you were racist, and that there had never been any worthwhile black characters on OLTL ever before.

 

The ABC.com boards and Mediadomain were pretty much the go-to spots for a number of years if you wanted to see the craziest people in soaps.  But the ABC boards were always such an eyesore, I never knew where anyone was actually able to post anything.  It was a nightmare of design.


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Posted 09 January 2013 - 05:08 PM

OLTL also had some type of mess in the dying days of the pre-Internet (broad use of the Internet) where Roy Thinnes got threats or something, and some blamed Clint Ritchie fans, or something. I don't know. It was a mess. I remember people talking about it years later.



The ABC.com boards and Mediadomain were pretty much the go-to spots for a number of years if you wanted to see the craziest people in soaps.  But the ABC boards were always such an eyesore, I never knew where anyone was actually able to post anything.  It was a nightmare of design.

 

Weren't they urine yellow? (or was that just those ads) 

 

The thread design at Mediadomain, the collapse type, is what used to confuse me. Most major boards dumped that a long time ago.


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