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#1 doolfan

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 11:58 AM

While I am loving GH right now, I do have one complaint and that is the OLTL characters. I gave them months to see if I would like them on GH and I don't. I liked them on OLTL but dislike them on GH. Whenever they are on they feel out of place and I think if they got rid of Starr, Todd, John it would free up space for more GH characters. It feels akward with them on the show. No offense but RC and FV need to let OLTL go and stop trying to incorporate it into GH. I love GH and I am enjoying it more now than I have in years but I just wish that they would write off the OLTL characters.
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#2 Khan

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:01 PM


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#3 Cheap21

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:36 PM

oh god, not this again
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#4 DRW50

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:41 PM

I don't think this thread is a bad idea - in the GH thread, arguments about OLTL characters often go into OLTL history and veer far off topic. This could be a thread where that could be transferred.
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#5 Eric83

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:42 PM

oh god, not this again

Was waiting on that Nene gif lol
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#6 Y&RWorldTurner

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:42 PM

It's continues to be a valid complaint though, no matter how often it's stated, especially when characters like Starr and McBain continue to be shoehorned in when they clearly don't work or have any relevancy to the canvas.

This debate won't die until GH is canceled or if Cartini is fired and all the OLTL rejects are fired along with them.

This is exactly the can of worms that was always bound to happen with this scenario,
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 12:54 PM

Careful guys. You're going to set Ron off on a Twitter fit. Posted Image
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:04 PM

I think Todd works.
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:18 PM

While I am loving GH right now, I do have one complaint and that is the OLTL characters. I gave them months to see if I would like them on GH and I don't. I liked them on OLTL but dislike them on GH. Whenever they are on they feel out of place and I think if they got rid of Starr, Todd, John it would free up space for more GH characters. It feels akward with them on the show. No offense but RC and FV need to let OLTL go and stop trying to incorporate it into GH. I love GH and I am enjoying it more now than I have in years but I just wish that they would write off the OLTL characters.


At the risk of dipping my toe into a gator-infested pool...

I am enjoying some (i said SOME) of the OLTL characters on GH better than I ever did on OLTL. Maybe that's because OLTL was never "my" show and GH was once. Maybe it's because GH had been totally written into the ground by Pratt/Guza/Frons/Wolf for so long that I couldn't stomach any of the GH characters by a certain point. IMO, bringing on Todd, Blair, Tea and McNostril (god I hated his ass on OLTL!) breathed some badly-needed fresh air into a stale, heartless, soulless soap. Other things contributed to the renaissance of GH (including bringing back Anna Devane permanently -- who would have thought a smart, vibrant, 50-something female cop would be moving so much story on GH?!) but they helped to get the ball rolling.

I don't really care if McNostril stays on the show now that certain SL s have been wrapped up and new ones are launching, obviously Blair and Tea were just there to usher things along at one point, and I could do without that annoying, singing pug yapping up airtime -- but I do hope Todd stays because this show is fitting him like a glove right about now.

*creeps away trepidatiously*

Edited by Cat, 21 November 2012 - 01:21 PM.

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#10 Cheap21

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:21 PM

Was waiting on that Nene gif lol

even Nene is tired of this

It's continues to be a valid complaint though, no matter how often it's stated, especially when characters like Starr and McBain continue to be shoehorned in when they clearly don't work or have any relevancy to the canvas.

I just think that it feels as if a new thread is created every other month stating the same thing

I don't think this thread is a bad idea - in the GH thread, arguments about OLTL characters often go into OLTL history and veer far off topic. This could be a thread where that could be transferred.

True, but.....theres already been several threads about this. Im guessing doolfan is new and just hasnt seen them

Edited by Cheap21, 21 November 2012 - 01:22 PM.

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#11 Golden Duck

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:21 PM

I think Todd works.


Agreed.

I think John would too if they got rid of his baggage.

But...Starr....HELL TO THE NO!
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#12 Mr. Vixen

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:43 PM

I agree, Todd words on GH very well. The others, not so much. Though I did enjoy Tea and blaiir's brief stints.
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 01:58 PM

Agreed.

I think John would too if they got rid of his baggage.

But...Starr....HELL TO THE NO!


One of the biggest failures in the writing has been their attempts to get rid of his baggage.

The other is that, as on PC, the more you saw of him with Kelly Monaco, the less interesting they were together. Two depressed people pouting at each other is not overly entertaining.
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#14 VirginiaHamilton

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 02:18 PM

Hmm, that's interesting, considering that I can name plenty of GH airtime-hoggers/characters who deserve to be there even less than the OLTL characters do.
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 02:44 PM

I agree that Todd works on GH and will even go a step further and say that he has been a benefit to GH. Other than a few months in 2010 when I tried to give the show a shot and hated it, I never watched OLTL. I had heard of the character of Todd Manning but seeing TSJ’s version did nothing for me and I couldn’t understand how the character could have ever been so popular. When the news that OLTL characters were coming to GH I was among the ones complaining. What I had seen from Blair and Starr in 2010 had not impressed me and I outright hated John McBain (and still do). The only one I was willing to give a chance to was Todd and only because it was Roger in the role who I had seen as Paul Ryan on ATWT (and he was the only character that ever gave me reason to watch that show). I started to like Todd on GH so much that I went back and started watching YouTube clips RH's Todd starting from the storylines in 1993. I was instantly hooked and you know the writing and performances have to be stellar if you’re willing to sit through clips from a soap you’ve never watched that was filmed 20 years ago and in the shoddy shape that YouTube clips from that era tend to be in. Not only did I find Todd to be the most intriguing (scariest and tragic) long term soap villains I’ve ever seen but I realized that once upon a time OLTL was a very well written, well acted soap opera (quite the opposite of what I felt about the show when I tried getting into it in 2010) …. Blair and Starr used to be interesting characters … and KDP at least is actually a very good actress.

After seeing the back story on Todd I like him even better but I’m actually less thrilled with his use on GH now than before and feel like they are terribly underutilizing his potential. I’m not advocating for more airtime, but rather for better use of his airtime. I mean seriously any stock character could stand around and listen to Carly whine, who the hell wastes a soap icon played by an actor as talented as Roger Howarth just to have yet another man revolving in and out of Carly’s orbit … and how can GH not grasp the awesomeness of having Todd Manning/Roger Howarth and Luke Spencer/Anthony Geary on the same soap and not capitalize on it (by my count they’ve had all of 3 scenes together in almost a year’s time). I don’t like Starr (or at least not the current adult version of her character) and would happily trade her for Blair but I would want one of them in town simply because it wouldn’t fit with Todd’s character that he would be in PC with both of them in Llanview. I don’t see any reason for both though and would prefer Blair to Starr. As for John McBain however, I've never seen any purpose to having that character on any show.
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 02:53 PM

This reminds me of a change.org petition I saw last night about bringing back a combined AMC and OLTL (no comment). Would fans feel differently about these character "invasions" if that was the "mission statement"?
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:12 PM

I like the idea of past AMC & OLTL characters coming on to GH, but they chose the wrong ones. They should have chosen someone like Daniel Wolek who is an open book story wise and would seamlessly fit into the fabric of the show. One of RC's twatty little additions he's created could have been his daughter, etc ...

Edited by Bright Eyes, 21 November 2012 - 03:12 PM.

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#18 marceline

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:25 PM

This reminds me of a change.org petition I saw last night about bringing back a combined AMC and OLTL (no comment). Would fans feel differently about these character "invasions" if that was the "mission statement"?


You mean would people be more accepting of a combined show? I think that would still have led to turf wars just a different kind. Factions from each show would still be arguing about who got pulled onto the lifeboat and who didn't, whose history is being re-written, what is and isn't in character, etc...
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 04:45 PM

You mean would people be more accepting of a combined show? I think that would still have led to turf wars just a different kind. Factions from each show would still be arguing about who got pulled onto the lifeboat and who didn't, whose history is being re-written, what is and isn't in character, etc...


You're probably right. There'd always be a running tally of how many characters on the canvas are from show A vs. show B, who's being properly represented, who' being propped, HW playing favorites, yadda yadda.

I will miss Erica Kane and Victoria Lord forever, but it's probably best to just let those shows go rather than trying to patch together some messy hybrid. I don't trust that anyone in daytime could do it right. This is where I like the idea of a single 30 min. novella slot in daytime should (when?) GH bites the dust. That'll most likely be the end of ABC soaps for good, but imagine treating the whole of daytime like the big fat rep company that it is and having a great EP and HW producing a series of novellas with a fresh new cast of primarily familiar soap faces. So then you have your Susan Lucci and your Erika Slezak in the same series for a couple of months playing new characters, your Julia Barr and your Robin Strasser playing opposite one another, David Canary and Jane Elliott, et cetera. I think that's "healthier" than these crossover mashups. Everyone is "new" and equal.

Edited by SFK, 21 November 2012 - 04:45 PM.

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#20 dragonflies

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 06:16 PM

oh god, not this again

exactly

oh and there are no OLTL characters on GH, they're GH characters......
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