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#1 allmc2008

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 09:12 AM

I remember me reading a post from one of my previous threads I made about how did we find out about back stage feuds and someone said they had no idea about Irna Phllips craziness, how Crazy the set of GH and AW was

Can anyone elaborate on these? What other juicy behind the scenes stuff happened throughout the years? What about Irna! I know she was coo-coo-ka-choo but on what level? Am I the only one who thinks the behind the scenes stuff is more dramatic than the actual storylines?
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Posted 25 October 2012 - 09:24 AM

Irna was just an eccentric woman.

GH had actors with issues in the 80s and I also believe AMC had the same issues. I think Jacqueline Babbin cleaned up the drugs on AMC.

I don't know anything about AW behind the scenes.
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Posted 25 October 2012 - 09:25 AM

Sometimes behind the scenes is far more interesting than what's on the screen. As AW is my favorite soap of all-time I would love to hear any stories about back stage drama. Though relatively speaking I don't remember reading much about AW other than issues during Jacquie Courtney and George Reinholdt's time back in the day.
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#4 Pine Charles

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Posted 25 October 2012 - 08:29 PM

Everyone on AMC was coked-up in the '80s. Didn't Kim D. almost fall off that yacht during the engagement party shoot (Jenny & Tony)?
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Posted 25 October 2012 - 08:30 PM

Sometimes behind the scenes is far more interesting than what's on the screen. As AW is my favorite soap of all-time I would love to hear any stories about back stage drama. Though relatively speaking I don't remember reading much about AW other than issues during Jacquie Courtney and George Reinholdt's time back in the day.


There was the supposed ugliness between Maeve Kinkead and Paul Rauch, which led her to be moved to GL.
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Posted 25 October 2012 - 08:42 PM

Any juicy stuff from ATWT's heyday? I know that Colleen Pinter and Hillary Bailey Smith disliked each other, but I never heard why. Other than that, I don't remember any big feuds behind the scenes...or did I just miss them?
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Posted 25 October 2012 - 08:43 PM

Everyone on AMC was coked-up in the '80s. Didn't Kim D. almost fall off that yacht during the engagement party shoot (Jenny & Tony)?

OMG!! Who else was on drugs??
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Posted 25 October 2012 - 08:46 PM

Any juicy stuff from ATWT's heyday? I know that Colleen Pinter and Hillary Bailey Smith disliked each other, but I never heard why. Other than that, I don't remember any big feuds behind the scenes...or did I just miss them?


There was supposedly conflict between Colleen and Jacqueline Schultz which helped convince Arianne Munker to leave the show.

There was a fair amount of tension between Liz Hubbard and Felicia Minei Behr - Behr is the only producer I can remember Hubbard speaking out about, and she essentially said Behr mocked her as an actress.

Melanie Smith did not like working with Greg Beecroft at all - I think she said he was her least favorite co-star.
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Posted 25 October 2012 - 09:23 PM

Well, if Melanie Smith didn't like working with Greg Beecroft, it certainly didn't show on screen. They had a ton of chemistry...I can still see them dancing that hot tango!
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Posted 25 October 2012 - 09:32 PM

Any juicy stuff from ATWT's heyday? I know that Colleen Pinter and Hillary Bailey Smith disliked each other, but I never heard why. Other than that, I don't remember any big feuds behind the scenes...or did I just miss them?


Rumors were that Hillary was a prankster on the set and also made fun of CZP and she wasnt too amused by it. I always thought the fun/silly side of Margo was true HBS in real life. That's why she fit the part so well.

Well, if Melanie Smith didn't like working with Greg Beecroft, it certainly didn't show on screen. They had a ton of chemistry...I can still see them dancing that hot tango!


They did...by that time though Gregory looked very thin and too gaunt. He had lost his hot looks. Melanie said he was very difficult to work with...
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Posted 25 October 2012 - 11:42 PM

There was the supposed ugliness between Maeve Kinkead and Paul Rauch, which led her to be moved to GL.


I don't know whether this is true, but I've read over the years how MK had threatened to sue Rauch for sexual harassment before P&G transplanted her to GUIDING LIGHT and had Doug Marland create the character of Vanessa for her. Again, though, that might be pure fabrication.

Has anyone else heard the story about Susan Seaforth Hayes punching Kaye Stevens (or another actress) in the face in the ladies' room on the NBC Burbank lot?

They did...by that time though Gregory looked very thin and too gaunt. He had lost his hot looks. Melanie said he was very difficult to work with...


I wonder whether Harley Jane Kozak, who played his love interest, Annabelle, on GUIDING LIGHT found him difficult to work with as well?
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Posted 25 October 2012 - 11:59 PM

As for Irna, no one ever called her crazy. She was apparently an extremely intelligent woman and remained so right to the end. What she was was a very tough woman, who could not be crossed, and who had toys only she could play with. There's something very poignant about how, near the end of her life, she began putting these idealized versions of herself on the screen, like Kim on ATWT. Somehow this doesn't offend me the way that the JFP haircut parade of AW and OLTL used to offend me.

If you want any details on all her feuds and how she would get payback, then we could provide that, I'm sure. But you may already know all that.
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:06 AM

Has anyone else heard the story about Susan Seaforth Hayes punching Kaye Stevens (or another actress) in the face in the ladies' room on the NBC Burbank lot?


Yes. And then the feud with Brenda Benet.
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:15 AM

As for Irna, no one ever called her crazy. She was apparently an extremely intelligent woman and remained so right to the end. What she was was a very tough woman, who could not be crossed, and who had toys only she could play with.


I've always believed Irna had to be tough, because -- let's face it -- all the "suits" at P&G, the different advertising agencies, and the networks were old-fashioned men with old-fashioned ideas about women. Even if they happened to be correct about some things, Irna felt that if she yielded even once to them, she'd lose all creative control in the end.

Meanwhile, I'd like to know whether Susan Lucci ever had any issues with any of her ALL MY CHILDREN co-stars besides Sarah Michelle Gellar.

Edited by Khan, 26 October 2012 - 12:17 AM.

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:34 AM

It's nice to know that Y&R is not the only messed up set (at least back then)

I still wish we had more details of other stuff that went on behind the scenes there, particularly the 80's and early 90's.

This may shock all of you as id did me, but i heard that Veronica Forrest that played Mamie wasn't as nice as Mamie was and that she actually locked herself in her dressing room and halted production for 30 minutes.

The same source i got that information from said that apparently Heather Tom and Tricia cast were both mean too, Heather i'm not really surprised, but Tricia seems like a sweetheart.
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 12:43 AM


I've always believed Irna had to be tough, because -- let's face it -- all the "suits" at P&G, the different advertising agencies, and the networks were old-fashioned men with old-fashioned ideas about women. Even if they happened to be correct about some things, Irna felt that if she yielded even once to them, she'd lose all creative control in the end.

Meanwhile, I'd like to know whether Susan Lucci ever had any issues with any of her ALL MY CHILDREN co-stars besides Sarah Michelle Gellar.


I think some fans here have said she did not get along with Lee Godart.
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 01:25 AM

Kim D. is the most notorious for drug use during her time, but supposedly there were others in that clique. Meg Ryan, I believe, also had the same issue during her time on ATWT.

J Eddie and Heather T. on Y&R did not have a great working relationship, but it had a lot to do with her being so young in a romantic relationship with a much older actor. She was uncomfortable.

Hunter T. and Kimberlin B. absolutely hated each other after some supposedly sordid stuff went down between them and their husbands.

MEK and CM, JB and JC supposedly had their issues over the years - I often wonder if the BTS had something to do with Brooke/Tad being paired up in the '90s. I believe all of them resolved whatever issues they had.

Eric B. and Peter B. on Y&R got into a physical altercation, which most people know about - Eric B. was forced to apologize to the entire crew and cast.
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 08:03 AM

What issues did Julia Barr and John Callahan have with one another? I've never heard of Barr having issues with anyone, while the only Callahan issues that I know of is of him stealing his best friend's (John O'Hurley) wife (Eva LaRue) and eventually cheating on her with his costar (Amelia Heinle).
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#19 allmc2008

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Posted 26 October 2012 - 08:49 AM

As for Irna, no one ever called her crazy. She was apparently an extremely intelligent woman and remained so right to the end. What she was was a very tough woman, who could not be crossed, and who had toys only she could play with. There's something very poignant about how, near the end of her life, she began putting these idealized versions of herself on the screen, like Kim on ATWT. Somehow this doesn't offend me the way that the JFP haircut parade of AW and OLTL used to offend me.

If you want any details on all her feuds and how she would get payback, then we could provide that, I'm sure. But you may already know all that.

Irna's life really fascinates me. I wonder if there is a book about her somewhere?? Anyway, I would really like more information about Irna.
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Posted 26 October 2012 - 09:08 AM

There are papers about her, in a library or something; she was planning to write her autobiography but passed away before she finished.

You probably already know most of the feuds she had with actors, and then that she helped her adopted daughter create the soap A World Apart (which was semi-based on Irna's life, as the matriarch was a soap writer with adopted kids).
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