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#1 Jonathan

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 07:05 PM

I'm shocked and I'm not shocked.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 07:18 PM

Weren't there reports of conflict with Oprah over Rosie not wanting to move?

I think she's become too abrasive and unstable to host a talk show. The only time she gets attention is when she makes stupid comments, like the comments against little people. I never understood why Oprah gave her a show.
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 07:21 PM

Someone should cancel the entire network, what an enormous flop.
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 07:27 PM

Maybe they will replace the show with a Bobbi Kristina show.
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 07:32 PM

Weren't there reports of conflict with Oprah over Rosie not wanting to move?


I heard that. If that's the case, I could see why O would not want to move the show. OWN already poured a lot of money into The Rosie Show and then to move it would take a bigger investment.
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Posted 16 March 2012 - 08:42 PM

I'm shocked and I'm not shocked.


LOL that's my thoughts exactly. I'm not a Rosie fan at all. I loved her 1990's talk show but even then she said things and did things i didn't like. By the end of that i was glad to see her leave. when she came on the View, i gave her a second chance but that was a disaster right from the begining. "The season from hell" for the View. so i at first was not going to watch her new show but then i started watching it for her guests. She's had some amazing one-on-one guest appearences that i've loved. Phyliss Diller, Kathy Griffin, Liza, Star Jones etc...

As for hiring Rosie, I always thought Oprah was smarter than that. She has a dying network and what does she do...she put Rosie O'Donnell on it. stupid! and she's paying for it.

Edited by BKuzak, 16 March 2012 - 08:47 PM.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 09:09 PM

The same stuff surfaced with Rosie again...she was difficult to work with...she wanted to move the show to NY which would have been costly. I just hated the set of the show...gave me the creeps.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:17 AM

Rosie was great in the 90s as the Queen of Nice. Then she was great on The View as the Liberal Lioness. This was an uncomfortable compromise that just never seemed right. I like Rosie but this was a failure.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 01:23 AM

Someone should cancel the entire network, what an enormous flop.


Alvin, do you think there is anything that can save it? (the network, that is) What type of shows do you think Oprah should have gone for for this network? I'm kind of at a loss, for once... I don't know what I would have done with that network.

Edited by alphanguy74, 17 March 2012 - 01:23 AM.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 04:49 PM

Alvin, do you think there is anything that can save it? (the network, that is) What type of shows do you think Oprah should have gone for for this network? I'm kind of at a loss, for once... I don't know what I would have done with that network.


Alphanguy, I can only speak for myself, but I don't believe that putting AMC and/or OLTL on OWN would have saved it. (I'm curious to read your thoughts on this matter, as I don't recall you having an opinion one way or the other on this issue. Of course, feel free to not respond if you so desire). I actually think that putting AMC and/or OLTL on own would have been a failure, given the sorry state of the network as well as the large budget cuts that both soaps would likely have received in order to even have gotten a place on the network's lineup.

I am not surprised that OWN is a failure, because lightning usually does not strike twice when it comes to great success. Few people seem to know when to quit while they are ahead.

Edited by Max, 17 March 2012 - 04:53 PM.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 06:21 PM

I'm not shocked, this show was doomed the second it launched on OWN and I saw the first set which was the Oprah set, with purple lighting. I was shocked about that, no money had been poured into the show and the spark wasn't there, it was not the show Rosie was ready to do and it showed, she couldn't have been happy there.

What we've seen lately, the one on one interviews in the small set without an audience, is where Rosie shines and it suits her. I had a feeling this announcement was coming when I saw Rosie was guest hosting Piers Morgan Tonight since it's an identical format to her show, I could see her pinch hitting for Piers at CNN (especially as CNN has not honoured a part of his contract to build a permanent set in London for him) or doing something for HLN to replace Joy Behar's show.

Now, Rosie had a 2 year deal at OWN. Either there were major outs in that contract or Harpo/Discovery bought out the contract. Rosie also sold the Chicago house she bought only months ago for a small profit, so overall, this was not a losing deal for her.

I think OWN needs to put money into scripted programming, something that can be sold. So far, the network is failing.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 09:04 PM

I'm not shocked, this show was doomed the second it launched on OWN and I saw the first set which was the Oprah set, with purple lighting. I was shocked about that, no money had been poured into the show and the spark wasn't there, it was not the show Rosie was ready to do and it showed, she couldn't have been happy there.

What we've seen lately, the one on one interviews in the small set without an audience, is where Rosie shines and it suits her. I had a feeling this announcement was coming when I saw Rosie was guest hosting Piers Morgan Tonight since it's an identical format to her show, I could see her pinch hitting for Piers at CNN (especially as CNN has not honoured a part of his contract to build a permanent set in London for him) or doing something for HLN to replace Joy Behar's show.

Now, Rosie had a 2 year deal at OWN. Either there were major outs in that contract or Harpo/Discovery bought out the contract. Rosie also sold the Chicago house she bought only months ago for a small profit, so overall, this was not a losing deal for her.

I think OWN needs to put money into scripted programming, something that can be sold. So far, the network is failing.



I'm just shocked that they pulled it after only 5 months. That's not even a full season.

So much money was wasted on this show. Like that stupid "cookie" room that functioned as brainstorming space for the producers. Plus, the millions of dollars OWN spent on marketing this show. All of this money should've been used towards developing at least one scripted program.

I'm also really curious about her contract. For OWN's sake, I hope they didn't buy out her contract.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 09:22 PM

Rosie was great in the 90s as the Queen of Nice. Then she was great on The View as the Liberal Lioness. This was an uncomfortable compromise that just never seemed right. I like Rosie but this was a failure.


Well that's how some people saw it. I "bought into" the Queen of nice act too but even back in her first show, that "sweet" veneer was cracking with each season. Remember when she brought Tom Selleck on to promote some movie he was doing and then attacked him about his views on gun control? or when she'd have Erika Slezak on and say how big of a fan she was of her and then when Susan Lucci came on ...Rosie said how Erika Slezak just got emmy's for have multiple personalities and nothing more. Susan was an upstanding woman and just smiled because it was awakard to her. so even back then you could tell she was two faced. Although in her defence, i can not think of another daytime talk show that has had as many soap opera actors and actresses on it. Yes Soaptalk from Soapnet but that was only on a few months out of the year, not really full seasons. Rosie did (i think) 6 full seasons and had a lot of daytime people on it. Even from other stations. I know she had Kim Zimmer on at least twice and others from other networks.

and The View, She was horrible! every week she was picking fights and having celebrity feuds with people. And unlike Merridith Viera before and Whoopie now, Rosie was not someone who could sit back and moderate (which was her job discription.) She was suposed to give her opinions and then sit back and try to let everyone have their say. that's not Rosie. Rosie was "leader" and everyone else had to jump in when she took breaths and god help anyone who disagreed with her. it was a nightmare.

but like i said before, i actually started to like the new show because her one-on-one talks have been pretty insightful. Don't care about her but she had good guests.

Edited by BKuzak, 17 March 2012 - 09:23 PM.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 09:39 PM

She was too thin-skinned to host a major show. I remember the first time I noticed was when she went on day after day and week after week about how Donnie Osmond called her fat.

I did appreciate the soap stars and some of the old nostalgia but it was just a very unsettling show, from one or two seasons in.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 10:49 PM



I'm just shocked that they pulled it after only 5 months. That's not even a full season.

So much money was wasted on this show. Like that stupid "cookie" room that functioned as brainstorming space for the producers. Plus, the millions of dollars OWN spent on marketing this show. All of this money should've been used towards developing at least one scripted program.

I'm also really curious about her contract. For OWN's sake, I hope they didn't buy out her contract.


OWN had to buy out her contract, it was a multi-million dollar deal, Rosie turned down a syndicated NBC deal at the request of Oprah. We know what syndication deals are worth, $10+ million right off the bat, so I'm certain OWN's offer had to be competitive.

This is a very interesting article and it demonstrates how blame is on both Rosie and Oprah and the team at OWN, most of whom have been fired:

http://www.thedailyb...experience.html
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:21 PM

That's a really good article. I thought it was strange back in February, when Rosie was on a 2 week hiatus. Who goes on hiatus during a sweeps month?
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:43 PM

That's a really good article. I thought it was strange back in February, when Rosie was on a 2 week hiatus. Who goes on hiatus during a sweeps month?


Exactly, that was a very, very, strange thing and I think it was a sign that things were not going well, I find it so interesting that the article mentions how Rosie was only told about the 7pm time slot a month or two before the airdate, that's INSANE, no wonder the show looked so slapped together. She clearly hated the band leader, her attitude I find puzzling, she's proud of how she didn't gel with Rosie, why she was hired when she couldn't play show tunes at the drop of a hat, good luck girl, not on Rosie's show.

And then you have the ridiculous OWN team who launched the network with absolutely nothing going for it, nothing noteworthy.

If they could turn back time, either the network never should have happened or Oprah should have migrated The Oprah Winfrey Show to OWN, produced a string of concert specials starring her friends (think Tina Turner, Diana Ross, Whitney Houston [RIP], etc etc), aired Harpo movies and mini-series, produced original scripted programming (5 shows at the minimum), 5 reality shows, repackaged Oprah episodes, a Suze Orman continuing series, Dr Oz reruns and several other talk programs. And then I would have promoted the sh*t out of all of it.

Basically, a lot of work needed to be done, a lot of work that takes more than a year to do. None of this work happened and the half assed network known as OWN pollutes our airwaves.
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Posted 17 March 2012 - 11:46 PM

Abusive behavior towards staffers seems to be have come up before with her (wasn't this a subject of a lawsuit with her magazine?) but the one about the publicist physicaly being taken out of a room was awful.
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Posted 18 March 2012 - 12:05 AM

What amazes me in this is how incompetent and unprepared Oprah's people seemed to be. It makes me wonder if they just got through based on Oprah's charisma and on the sense of being a "family."

Reading about the way Rosie humiliated these people was just tough to deal with. I think Oprah's arrogance blinded her to knowing the history of this person and questioning if she needed yet another chance to implode.
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Posted 18 March 2012 - 12:49 AM

Abusive behavior towards staffers seems to be have come up before with her (wasn't this a subject of a lawsuit with her magazine?) but the one about the publicist physicaly being taken out of a room was awful.


That's not an uncommon thing. Publicists lie all the time and get booted off shows, that's part of the territory. Publicists can be some of the nastiest people you would ever deal with in the business because they are 100% client focused, they don't give a damn what lies they tell a show producer, swag tent runner or producer. I know, many of my friends are publicists and I'd hate, HATE to deal with them in a professional setting.

Rosie is as good as she is bad. Everyone in the business has two sides to them. Rosie is a perfectionist, she knew how badly this show was being managed and I'm sure she blew up repeatedly. I think it was also stupid as all hell of Oprah to insist that the show be filmed at Harpo in Chicago with Oprah loyalists who I am sure thought they knew 'best'. Yes, they're all Oprah employees, but The Rosie Show was independently run by Rosie's KidRo Productions, she should have driven her own bus and ran her own show out of New York with her crew, not the pseudo independence she had with Oprah. Oprah herself should have realised that, she interviewed Rosie last year and they made the 'bus driver' analogy themselves.

What amazes me in this is how incompetent and unprepared Oprah's people seemed to be. It makes me wonder if they just got through based on Oprah's charisma and on the sense of being a "family."


Nail. Head. You hit it. The Oprah staff is ridiculously incompetent and unprepared and even Oprah's charisma has failed them. Oprah ran a great show, a good production studio and a decent company. She never ran a network or an operation of this size and it's glaringly obvious.
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