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#1 dragonflies

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 12:41 PM

Thanks to Proteus at SOC:


Erica Kidnaps David

Erica holds David against his will in an effort to get him to admit why he's marrying Greenlee. VI talks about how Greens means a lot to David and that this may be the best David thinks he can get since he has no one else. Erica and David's own past comes into play as Erica explores David's mind. They can be honest with each other and manipulate each other as well. VI talks about how grueling the scenes were but he and SL loved them and he's glad the show is utilizing D/E's special bond.


Ryan Kidnaps Greenlee

Everyone in the studio was brought to tears by Greens & Ryan's reunion. CM talks about how he's happy that so many people were moved by it and he and Rebecca felt so connected with each other doing it. David and everyone else at the wedding disappears and Ryan only sees Greenlee. Ryan's ecstatic and then starts asking Greenlee to tell him how David's forcing her to do this and if he's blackmailing her or brainwashed her. Greens tells Ryan that's not why she is doing this. Ryan and Greens' strong connection is mixed underneath their confusion. Ryan doesn't care about David or anything that's happened this past year because the way he sees things is that since Greenlee's back that means she's getting back together with him. Ryan asks Greenlee to marry him, but she then brings up Kendall and Erica. Ryan gets Greenlee to admit she's only marrying David to get back at him. Greens tells Ryan off for not waiting for her and he gets her POV. Ryan later kidnaps Greenlee and takes her to the castle where they wed in 2004 so he can make her see that they belong together. Ryan believes if he has Greens alone with him he can knock sense into her and she will take him back. Greens and Ryan kiss and she admits to Ryan that she loves him. But she tells him that she won't take him back. Ryan still won't back down, and she collapses in his arms. Ryan summons Jake to take a look at her & he overhears her tell Jake that he's going to kill her if he doesn't give her space. Hearing that makes Ryan realize he needs a new approach and if he keeps this up he may drive her further away from him.

Edited by Zendall Fan, 09 February 2010 - 12:42 PM.

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#2 Kylie

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 12:55 PM

Oh, David/Erica are going to kill me. :wub: I can't believe this is a basement replay of sorts. My god, LB, I love you. I love that VI acknowledges their bond, yes. :D

Does anyone have SOD that would be willing to email the actual article or scan it? I couldn't keep my subscriptions in the UK. LOL

As for the Rylee stuff, all roads lead to their happily ever after. Not that I've ever doubted. ;)
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#3 Ann_SS

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 12:56 PM

Sounds good. There may be hope for David if he doesn't marry Greenlee. If not, he will be sacrificed.
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 12:59 PM

Doesn't sound like there's an actual D/G wedding, that it doesn't actually happen.

Greens tells Ryan off for not waiting for her


Oh Greenlee STFU. I'm no Ryan fan, but you did make a DVD giving him YOUR permission to move on. Sure it shouldn't have happened a month after your death(that I'll agree with)

Not to mention he actually did think you were dead, thanks to who? DAVID

Edited by Zendall Fan, 09 February 2010 - 01:00 PM.

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#5 LeClerc

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 02:55 PM

So everyone at the studio was brought to tears by the Rylee's reunion? What the hell is wrong with these people?
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#6 Kylie

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 03:03 PM

^IMO, it's just more evidence that Rylee is endgame. They don't put this much work into a couple to build a viable triangle. David is going to get hit, and then probably ran over by the Rylee Love Train. :rolleyes:
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 03:08 PM

So everyone at the studio was brought to tears by the Rylee's reunion? What the hell is wrong with these people?


Thank you! From experience I can tell you that people in the arts can be very *extra* though, and when you mix artsy people with kiss-ass people on set, there's bound to be some exaggeration of emotion and some exaggeration in the later account of the incident.
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#8 Adam

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 03:12 PM

David and Erica sounds awesome!

Rylee, studio moved to tears? As LeClerc stated, what in the hell is wrong with those people? Delusional.
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#9 Kylie

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 03:17 PM

I wonder how long the D&E stuff will last. The basement scenes spanned six shows, and VI makes it sound like this time around it's at least two days. Eeeeeeeee, me likey. :D
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#10 Adam

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 03:22 PM

I wonder how long the D&E stuff will last. The basement scenes spanned six shows, and VI makes it sound like this time around it's at least two days. Eeeeeeeee, me likey. :D

I wonder if Rylee is full steam ahead (as it certainly appears to be in these spoilers) if a full David/Erica redux is in the works here..... that could be interesting. That would be alot better than David becoming obsessive over Greenlee and trying to keep her away from Ryan.
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#11 Kylie

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 03:26 PM

^You know, people keep bringing that up to me (the possibility of a D&E redux) and my gut says no. But I do wonder. Last week, we had three mentions about them being former lovers (I don't think that's happened in years, at least 5 or 6) and their scenes last week had a bit of...heat on the end, so I don't know. I still lean toward no, especially with Walt back (even recurring) but at this point nothing would surprise me.

Though, IF AMC were to go there, I'd think more of a fling/ONS then relationship...

I would have NEVER dreamed they do a basement take two. Never. So at the moment, I can't rule anything out. I think we'll know by the time these scenes end. VI seemed happy with the way they played on D&E's history/connection in the scenes, so my feeling is that there is some kind of...blurring of the love/hate line with them. That's how it went last time.

Rylee is endgame. I've never thought otherwise. To much time and effort is being put into them to suddenly start a triangle. I think Rylee are going to be their own worst enemies.

Edited by Kylie, 09 February 2010 - 03:27 PM.

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#12 lovely_m

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 03:30 PM

So everyone at the studio was brought to tears by the Rylee's reunion? What the hell is wrong with these people?



It could have been tears of boredom.
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 03:31 PM

Rylee is endgame. I've never thought otherwise. To much time and effort is being put into them to suddenly start a triangle. I think Rylee are going to be their own worst enemies.

As much as we say Frons does what Frons wants, there HAS to be some support out there for this pairing.... there just has too. A contingent of non-online people writing letters in, or making their voices known somewhere.... I mean as much of an idiot I think Frons is, he wouldn't be stupid enough to keep endlessly pushing a couple that is supported by virtually no fan base. I think we online folks get caught up sometimes in thinking we are the only demographic. Its clear that is not the case. Just food for thought. Does anyone else think the same way?

It could have been tears of boredom.

Or tears of woe knowing they all will be jobless alot sooner rather than later if this pairing goes full force.
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#14 Kylie

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 03:36 PM

^Yeah there has to be Rylee fans that aren't online for Frons to continue getting his way. I just have watched soaps for to long to think Rylee is going to end. Not when AMC has been driving home the fact that they are true loves for years, and have been laying it on extra thick in anticipation for RB's return. You don't prop these two as lovers for so long and so hard and then convincingly say that they never were and David is now the one Greenlee wants to be with. Doesn't work that way.

I've seen this as Rylee putting up their own speed bumps, with David being around to keep Rylee apart whenever he can.
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 03:42 PM

Looks like LB needs a history lesson?

She TIIC thought they got blasted for Erica and Ryan , just wait until they get an earful over hooking Erica up with her Granddaughter's kidnappper!

If they dealt with it they could work but instead their acting like the babyswitch never happpend. Which mean fans will fell like they'll have to remind them!
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#16 Kylie

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 03:45 PM

^ LOL, I don't think David/Erica will go romantic. I freely admit there's something odd to all of this, but I don't think it's romance.
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Posted 09 February 2010 - 03:47 PM

Looks like LB needs a history lesson?

She TIIC thought they got blasted for Erica and Ryan , just wait until they get an earful over hooking Erica up with her Granddaughter's kidnappper!

If they dealt with it they could work but instead their acting like the babyswitch never happpend. Which mean fans will fell like they'll have to remind them!


Subterfuge! :lol: :lol:
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#18 LeClerc

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 04:05 PM

As much as we say Frons does what Frons wants, there HAS to be some support out there for this pairing.... there just has too. A contingent of non-online people writing letters in, or making their voices known somewhere.... I mean as much of an idiot I think Frons is, he wouldn't be stupid enough to keep endlessly pushing a couple that is supported by virtually no fan base. I think we online folks get caught up sometimes in thinking we are the only demographic. Its clear that is not the case. Just food for thought. Does anyone else think the same way?



I remember a couple of years ago SOD stated that it receives mail in support of every pairing, but that they receive very little mail in support of Rylee, and they couldn't figure out why there was such a mis-match between viewer passion for the pairing and their position on the show.

I'm sure there's support out for Rylee. I think every couple has support. I'm sure there are very passionate JR/Marissa fans out there. But I can't believe that the offline reception to Rylee is so dramatically different from how they are received online as to warrant the attention Rylee receive from TPTB.

Frons has always struck me as someone who is quick to shake pairings up, even pairings that he is a huge fan of (e.g. John & Natalie, Nash & Jessica, Jason & Sam, Sonny & Carly). He seems willing to see if they might be able to create something even more popular than what they have at the time. But not when it comes to Rylee. It's as if they are the only sacred couple. It's just really strange. Rebecca has chemistry with other people. Cameron has chemistry with other people. They could have 2 really popular pairings instead of 1 moderately popular* pairing (*if we assume for a moment that Rylee is popular offline).
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#19 Juliajms

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 04:08 PM

Why do TIIC have to replace one horrible couple with one that is potentially even worse? They didn't even give me a week to enjoy the end of Zendull before they had to let us know RyLee was on it's way to suck up all the airtime. :rolleyes: It's the overexposure that makes me hate these characters more than anything else. I actually like Greenlee, but when she's on 20 mins a day going on about her epic love for Ryan, no thanks.
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#20 Adam

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Posted 09 February 2010 - 04:23 PM

I remember a couple of years ago SOD stated that it receives mail in support of every pairing, but that they receive very little mail in support of Rylee, and they couldn't figure out why there was such a mis-match between viewer passion for the pairing and their position on the show.

I'm sure there's support out for Rylee. I think every couple has support. I'm sure there are very passionate JR/Marissa fans out there. But I can't believe that the offline reception to Rylee is so dramatically different from how they are received online as to warrant the attention Rylee receive from TPTB.

Frons has always struck me as someone who is quick to shake pairings up, even pairings that he is a huge fan of (e.g. John & Natalie, Nash & Jessica, Jason & Sam, Sonny & Carly). He seems willing to see if they might be able to create something even more popular than what they have at the time. But not when it comes to Rylee. It's as if they are the only sacred couple. It's just really strange. Rebecca has chemistry with other people. Cameron has chemistry with other people. They could have 2 really popular pairings instead of 1 moderately popular* pairing (*if we assume for a moment that Rylee is popular offline).

I remember that SOD blurb come to think of it. And yeah, Frons is very quick to shake things up, but seems to really have a hardon for Rylee. I'll never understand. Its now going on 6 years for this Rylee "love" story, you'd think they'd try a different tune. They are no Tad and Dixie, and as much as they've been ruined.... they aren't a Zach and Kendall either. They are just plan mismatched. Completely different characters and two actors who have VERY different styles. Cam abd Becky are good friends I know, but that is no reason to come up with contrived plot device after contrived plot device to keep their characters in orbit.
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