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[DaytimeFan]

Recent banter about Susan Lucci's facial renovations gave me the idea to start one of my beloved plastic surgery and dermatology threads!

Let's dish on who looks great, who looks awful and how they go there!

[YRBB]

What about Jess Walton? I figure she looks really nice and I can't tell if she's done anything... perhaps Botox? Or is it all natural?

[Sylph]

I hate plastic surgery. Everyone looks terrible.

Edited by Sylph, 25 January 2010 - 03:34 PM.

[YRBB]

I hate plastic surgery.

For me, it's kind of scary... DaytimeFan was explaining all the eye cutting on the other thread and I was like I don't think I would ever be able to do something like this.

[DaytimeFan]

What about Jess Walton? I figure she looks really nice and I can't tell if she's done anything... perhaps Botox? Or is it all natural?

She is truly a mystery to me. She has excellent, thick, trouble free skin...but damn is that jawline still taught or what? She has aged, but beautifully. Certainly, she's had some Botox in her forehead and I'm willing to bet a chemical peel here and there. Damn does she look good.

I hate plastic surgery. Everyone looks terrible.

Ha Ha. Well then I hate to break it to you, but you must hate everyone you see on television or on the screen because they've all had something done and most of them look fabulous.

[Sylph]

For me, it's kind of scary... DaytimeFan was explaining all the eye cutting on the other thread and I was like I don't think I would ever be able to do something like this.

It's just awful, terrible! I am kind of pro stuff like lasers (Pearl skin rejuvenation, texture and pigmentation, sun damage removal; IPL can, for example, reduce pore size, treat scars, diminish wrinkles [I don't know in what amount]; there is Pulsed Dye, which removes birthmarks, treats acne and stretchmarks; YAG reduces spider veins; then there's TITAN... They can also remove excessive body hair, tattoos...) but very much against any cutting, injecting, implanting... Anything invasive.

Ha Ha. Well then I hate to break it to you, but you must hate everyone you see on television or on the screen because they've all had something done and most of them look fabulous.

I know.

In 50 years people will become a mixture between humans and some kind of surgery-genetic-whatever-modified organisms.

Horrifying.

[quartermainefan]

Deidre Hall and Lauren Koslow always fascinated me. They both defy age.

I guess any discussion of plastic surgery must inevitably turn to Jackie Zeman and Leslie Charleson from GH. What did they do to themselves to look so bad?

[YRBB]

She is truly a mystery to me. She has excellent, thick, trouble free skin...but damn is that jawline still taught or what? She has aged, but beautifully. Certainly, she's had some Botox in her forehead and I'm willing to bet a chemical peel here and there. Damn does she look good.

Yep, she has aged great.... I guess she's one of "those" people

It's just awful, terrible! I am kind of pro stuff like lasers (Pearl skin rejuvenation, texture and pigmentation, sun damage removal; IPL can, for example, reduce pore size, treat scars, diminish wrinkles [I don't know in what amount]; there is Pulsed Dye, which removes birthmarks, treats acne and stretchmarks; YAG reduces spider veins; then there's TITAN... They can also remove excessive body hair, tattoos...) but very much against any cutting, injecting, implanting... Anything invasive.

LOL, I don't know about any of these... You learn something every day!

[Sylph]

LOL, I don't know about any of these... You learn something every day!

Well, DaytimeFan will correct me if I'm wrong!

[CarlD2]

Is there a difference in how you will cope with or look after plastic surgery if you are a heavy smoker, or drinker, versus not doing a lot of either of those?

[SFK]

Smoking is a big no-no before and after surgery. Smoking shrinks capillaries which slows healing and can cause complications during surgery. I remember catching an episode of Dr. 90210 where he told one of his patients that she'd have to quit a couple of weeks before he operated on her. Well, she didn't, and as she was coming out of anesthesia she was wheezing like a furnace and damn near coughed up a lung. He reprimanded her.

And in general, it can make the skin look dull and papery. This is pure speculation on my part, but when I saw pictures of Donna Karan (who incidentally was in a ltr with her plastic surgeon, Dr. Baker) my first thought was that she must be a smoker. It's just sonthing about the way her skin draped on her face after surgery. Again, pure speculation, but just a gut reaction, like she was surgically rejuvinated yet she still looked weathered.

[CarlD2]

I was just wondering because I think Jess Walton is or was a heavy smoker. I also wonder if that might have caused some of the unsuccessful plastic surgeries in some actresses.

[SFK]

I don't know if she still is (remember the talk of a health scare last year? I know DF remembers), but she once was. I've read interviews where the interviewer mentions her lighting up, and with a voice like that... I'd also guess that Jeanne Cooper quit smoking years ago, her voice healed a la Bea Arthur's.

[CarlD2]

Jeanne had her first surgeries around '84, didn't she? Or the first she talked about, anyway. I wonder if she'd quit by then.

[alexisfan07]

What about Lauren Koslow? She butchered her face royally in the last few years.

And which ones are we thinking have veneers?

[BadZoe]

I am all for plastic surgery but I think one should wait until after 50 before getting a face lift. So many of these actresses seem to be getting them at 36 and wind up looking like freaks.

My all time fave is Tina Turner. She's 70 and looks awesome.

[CarlD2]

We should talk about all that Jennifer Garies has had done. I think she is a billboard for too much plastic surgery, even more than those like Zeman and Joan Van Ark, because she got it so young. Even Joan Van Ark didn't start with the heavy stuff until she got to her mid/late 40s.

[R Sinclair]

I guess any discussion of plastic surgery must inevitably turn to Jackie Zeman and Leslie Charleson from GH. What did they do to themselves to look so bad?

Dear gawd, Jackie Zeman...

Smoking is a big no-no before and after surgery. Smoking shrinks capillaries which slows healing and can cause complications during surgery. I remember catching an episode of Dr. 90210 where he told one of his patients that she'd have to quit a couple of weeks before he operated on her. Well, she didn't, and as she was coming out of anesthesia she was wheezing like a furnace and damn near coughed up a lung. He reprimanded her.

I honestly let out a bit of inappropriate laughter after reading this. I don't know why.

[Khan]

What about Crystal Chappell (Carly, DAYS)? Recently, she underwent surgery to remove her breast implants because they were so huge (no [!@#$%^&*], Crystal).

[DaytimeFan]

Is there a difference in how you will cope with or look after plastic surgery if you are a heavy smoker, or drinker, versus not doing a lot of either of those?

The difference is absolutely staggering. The skin you go into a surgery with is the skin you come out of a surgery with. Smoking RUINS the skin. It turns it into leathery, dried out, ashen, paper. It's the worst thing you can do, I think it's worse than being a sun worshipper. Booze is terrible too.

Plastic surgery works, to some degree, by stimulating your skin to repair itself after it has sustained an 'injury' (that is how a laser works, theoretically). If your skin function is impaired (thanks to smoking or drinking) then the result is going to be impaired as well.

I was just wondering because I think Jess Walton is or was a heavy smoker. I also wonder if that might have caused some of the unsuccessful plastic surgeries in some actresses.

Was, emphasis on the was. She has aged remarkably well for a smoker. The voice was hers in the 80s, it hasn't changed much since then. Certainly, it's been 'enhanced' (I say that only because I think she has the sexiest voice in the world) by her smoking, but it wasn't what caused it.

Jeanne had her first surgeries around '84, didn't she? Or the first she talked about, anyway. I wonder if she'd quit by then.

She was still smoking till the early 90s. I feel that's why her facelift didn't last her as long as it should have and why her skin is so poor. She as also an alcoholic till the early 80s, so that took it's toll as well.

What about Lauren Koslow? She butchered her face royally in the last few years.

And which ones are we thinking have veneers?

I have to wonder how you think Lauren Koslow butchered her face? For a 56 year old woman, she is absolutely gorgeous. She hasn't had surgery either, just fillers, Botox and very skilled makeup (her husband is a makeup artist). She doesn't look 'done' and still has animation in her face. The lips are just enough, any more and she wouldn't look good.

Almost everyone in television has either had veneers or their teeth professionally whitened. I'd say 99% of people on television, regardless of the medium, have had serious work done on their teeth.

What about Crystal Chappell (Carly, DAYS)? Recently, she underwent surgery to remove her breast implants because they were so huge (no [!@#$%^&*], Crystal).

Crystal has had some very suspect Botox done. It's really impaired her looks and it's caused her eyebrows to droop. That is a temporary side effect and will improve over the next 3-6 months. Her breast implants were inappropriate for her frame. I'm glad she didn't have new ones put in. She is someone who looks her best, naturally.