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#1 DRW50

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 08:20 PM

I don't know if there's a need to ask for best or worst of this type of story, since we know many of the highest profile stories (Loving murders, DAYS and the Slasher/Stalker/Strangler), but are there any good or memorable (perhaps not in a good way) serial killer stories you don't hear that much talk about?

I know AW had their Sin Stalker story which I haven't seen much of, I've only seen Crystal Gayle trying to fight off the killer. Was the story as misogynist as it reads?

I also read about a serial killer story on Search for Tomorrow in 1986, which seemed to be one of the last gasps of the show.

And then GL had, I guess, some attempt at a serial killer story in 2003 when various bit players were killed. The killer was Ben Reade, in a lovely story which told us that being sexually abused = being a murderer. The main thing that story killed was any last love I had left for GL.
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Posted 28 December 2009 - 08:27 PM

There was a serial killer story on SEARCH? Hmm details?

I think it was 2003/2004 was when soaps tried to revive the serial killer plot as a way to garner viewers. GL, ATWT, GH, DAYS, and OLTL all seemed to have one in the span of a year. It was really ridiculous and depressing.
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#3 EricMontreal22

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 08:30 PM

OLTL seems to have a serial killer storyline every 6 months under Valentini.
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Posted 28 December 2009 - 08:30 PM

There was a serial killer story on SEARCH? Hmm details?

I think it was 2003/2004 was when soaps tried to revive the serial killer plot as a way to garner viewers. GL, ATWT, GH, DAYS, and OLTL all seemed to have one in the span of a year. It was really ridiculous and depressing.


I think they did that to try to ape DAYS. ATWT's I don't remember that much, wasn't it patients in the hospital? OLTL had, what, two or three in the space of a few years?

I know AW also had a few in the mid-90s, during JFP's watch. The main purpose seemed to be, as with most of the murder mysteries on GH this decade, an excuse to slaughter female characters. To think Bridget died in one of those :(

The one on SFT was mentioned in the Search thread a few days ago. Stephanie Wyatt and Jo's granddaughter were killed, I'm not sure if anyone else was.
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Posted 28 December 2009 - 08:32 PM

OLTL seems to have a serial killer storyline every 6 months under Valentini.


The Matthew Ashford one with Gabrielle and the toilet one, the Marcie one they used as an excuse to kill off all the college age recurring characters (did any survive other than the gay one?). The Daniel Coulson mess, which I guess was the biggest "success", given the ratings boost. And then KAD.

At least there was a gap of a few years.
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Posted 28 December 2009 - 08:37 PM

Yeah just to be clear I was exagerating :P Still, if I was EP I woulda said no to another serial killer story so soon. Similarly I can't believe they decided to spice The City's ratings up so early on with he Masquerade Killings which essentially felt like an inferior retread of the Loving Murders (and since they were by the same writers and EP they basically were). The City didn't really get good, IMHo till it foudn its style after that, though some of the killings were entertaining.

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#7 DRW50

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 08:40 PM

I know you were exaggerating, I was just adding up because they did have serial killer stories back to back for about two years.

The Masquerader stuff had some good moments but I agree it was a mistake right after the Loving murders. The stakes were not high enough compared to that story. They killed off a few minor characters and Ally ate some bad sushi.
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#8 EricMontreal22

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 08:41 PM

That';s exactly it--it could never have been as compelling anyway cuz not everyone could be killed.
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Posted 28 December 2009 - 08:46 PM

OLTL seems to have a serial killer storyline every 6 months under Valentini.

No worse than Malone who had several throughout the year and 90% revolved around John McBain. It was so stupid and he'd bring on newbies for the sole purpose of killing them off

Edited by Cheap21, 28 December 2009 - 08:47 PM.

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 08:47 PM

ATWT's serial killer, Rick Decker was played by John James who fabulously hammed it up. Rick Decker killed patients and doctors at the hospital and duped Susan into marrying him. He then got close to Barbara when they were both in the mental institution. I love that story. I laughed through most of it.

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 09:08 PM

ATWT's serial killer, Rick Decker was played by John James who fabulously hammed it up. Rick Decker killed patients and doctors at the hospital and duped Susan into marrying him. He then got close to Barbara when they were both in the mental institution. I love that story. I laughed through most of it.


Rick Vs. The Stewart Women was hilarious.
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#12 EricMontreal22

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 09:41 PM

No worse than Malone who had several throughout the year and 90% revolved around John McBain. It was so stupid and he'd bring on newbies for the sole purpose of killing them off

Yes, that was under Valentini as well (unless you mean 90s Malone) and is included in what I meant :P (maybe you thoguth I said Carlivati but I was meaning the whole Valentini regime) I actually read the Killing whatever--Marcie's tie in book that Malone and Griffith ghost wrote--it's not bad at all (Malone is a great novelist so he prob cranked it out in his sleep) but I had NO clue how the murders on the show connected to those in the book, though part of that is the fault that Higley carried on the plot on the show not him.

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Posted 28 December 2009 - 10:11 PM

Am I right in saying that the Salem Strangler was the first serial killer story?

It broke new ground,but like so many other soap stories was done to death.

A short time later Days tried again with the Salem Slasher and then there was the Riverfront Knifer etc.

How long before Y&R does one?

Let's see-Jill,Nikki,Paul become victims and the killer is Nina.
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Posted 29 December 2009 - 12:28 AM

Yes, that was under Valentini as well (unless you mean 90s Malone) and is included in what I meant :P (maybe you thoguth I said Carlivati but I was meaning the whole Valentini regime) I actually read the Killing whatever--Marcie's tie in book that Malone and Griffith ghost wrote--it's not bad at all (Malone is a great novelist so he prob cranked it out in his sleep) but I had NO clue how the murders on the show connected to those in the book, though part of that is the fault that Higley carried on the plot on the show not him.

My bad. I did take it as Carlivati
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Posted 29 December 2009 - 12:30 AM

The Edge of Night did a serial killer story long before Days did. In early 1978, a serial killer stalked red-haired women in Monticello. Deborah Saxon, played by Frances Fisher, was involved in this plot.


Am I right in saying that the Salem Strangler was the first serial killer story?


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#16 EricMontreal22

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 12:30 AM

Well you're right that Malone was worse than the others--still I think an EP should say to whoever just started writing--"we just had a similar story" etc
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Posted 29 December 2009 - 01:02 AM

Regarding the Sin Stalker on AW I seem to recall the killer doc Glaser hated women whom he thought were "impure". Since he attacked the wholesome Crystal Gayle I gotta wonder what his motive was for that. Did one of her songs turn his brown eyes blue?

In any case, yes AW did have have back to back serial killer storylines in 1996, first with the Hospital Killer and then Fax Newman. Brigit was poisoned and died in the first one, and then of course Fax Newman was just pure slaughter of women.
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#18 Faulkner

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Posted 29 December 2009 - 04:22 AM

If soaps never did another murder mystery or serial killer story, I'd be a happy camper. I've never enjoyed either type of story. With murder mysteries, I've always found it much more compelling to *know* the killer and watch the culpit's machinations to keep his/her actions a secret, Crime and Punishment-style.

And of course, soap serial killer stories are primarily just big misogyny fests. (Satin Slayer, anyone?) I didn't watch the Loving murders (outside the great Gwyneth reveal on YouTube), but I don't think, if I had been a fan of the show, I'd have liked to have seen my favorite characters brutalized like that. Doesn't exactly live one with a warm, fluffy feeling about a show you put years of your life into. (I know a lot of the characters went on to The City, but still.)

Y&R's serial killer days are coming and coming soon. I'd put money on it.
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Posted 29 December 2009 - 05:57 AM

ATWT's serial killer, Rick Decker was played by John James who fabulously hammed it up. Rick Decker killed patients and doctors at the hospital and duped Susan into marrying him. He then got close to Barbara when they were both in the mental institution. I love that story. I laughed through most of it.


They had another serial killer story just a few years later. Remember Raven Lake and Maddie's deranged sister? If my memory serves me she tried to frame Maddie for the multiple killings since she blamed Maddie for "seducing" her husband, when in fact he had raped Maddie.
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Posted 29 December 2009 - 11:11 AM

GH`s Text Messege Killer story.It was ok but fell apart when Coop was killed.

Days Salen Stalker was just OTT and almost destoryed the show.

and AMC`s who muredered stuart story which was rottenly bad.

I dont think i can remember much great serial killer stories

apart from British Soap Corronation Street`s Richard Hillman Murders in 2001-2003 which we knew who the killer was and could not do anything about it.It was great.
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