[YRBB]

Once more, a place for a general discussion of Y&R. I guess you can also call this the "Haters" thread, August Edition.

This post has been edited by YRBB: 01 August 2009 - 03:38 AM

[dmarex]

Why should it be "haters" edition? It's pretty much to discuss everything outside general episode discussion. Soon we'll have "positive potpourri," "negative potpourri," "medium potpourri," etc.

[YRBB]

dmarex, on 01 August 2009 - 04:52 AM, said:

Why should it be "haters" edition? It's pretty much to discuss everything outside general episode discussion. Soon we'll have "positive potpourri," "negative potpourri," "medium potpourri," etc.

You obviously haven't seen we already have that That's why I was making fun of it.

This post has been edited by YRBB: 01 August 2009 - 04:06 AM

[Y&RWorldTurner]

It's amazing how much worse this show gets to me week after week. I feel like with each episode, the show is losing more and more of its identity.

Because it must be said again, Maria Arena Bell, Hogan Sheffer, and Scott Hamner all need to be fired immediately. Their vision for this show goes against its grain and what made it a success in the first place. Y&R, even during its down times, used to be one of the most consistently written shows on television, period. That is no longer the case.

I just want a writer who can stay true to this show's roots and be contemporary at the same time. IMO, this doesn't apply to any of the hacks currently destroying this once great daytime institution.

I really loved the Meg Bennett idea. IMO, she'd be the perfect mixture for a show like Y&R and what the show could use. She has experience writing for the show, but as she's shown at other soaps, she can do a variety of stories and her style is hip and contemporary. As a script writer for Y&R during most of the 80's, she was able to write for most of the essential core characters and learn their unique traits, and most of these characters still exist on the canvas to this day.

If daytime is gone in a few years, I'd prefer they'd at least give this show to someone who worked for Bill Bell or understands his vision. Again, if its all going to hell soon and they can't find the perfect storyteller, I think it would be a good conclusion and what Bill Bell would have wanted for his show.

Most seem to think I hate on Y&R just for the fun of it, that is not the case. I just hate to see the show sink to such levels. Y&R is better than what it currently is, and I will not sit back and watch it continue down this road.

This post has been edited by Y&RWorldTurner: 01 August 2009 - 04:03 AM

[dmarex]

Just a year ago the show was going to good places, and nowadays it's sinking faster than Titanic...

[rhythmchyc]

Awesome, this thread has been retitled.

I must say I'm loving everyone's hair these days. A definite improvement (except for Morrow's, Ford's, and Case's, obviously LOL).

And I like Victoria and JT's storyline. For the shallow crap tptb have pulled recently, this seems to have come from a real place to me. And it's not something that's dropped out of the sky or an s/l that's "Poof! JT and Victoria are getting a divorce." Although we never see their marriage and the problems haven't been as prevalent as they should be, it's still such a relief to see two characters act in character, be integrated in other storylines, and move all of these s/ls along.

AH has her limitations, but I couldn't see Heather Tom in this role because she'd flatten Thad in one scene. The marriage wouldn't work if she was cast in this role. So for now, I'm enjoying the prospects of this story and I can't wait to see where it goes.

If Deacon hadn't raped Amber, I would've enjoyed his budding relationship with Victoria too. Then again, she'd become the sucker that, inexplicably, her father is now and the story will undoubtedly lose its credibility when she inevitably falls for the slimebucket. Victoria would never fall for Deacon. JT should be the one who cheats, not Victoria. And if they both cheat, it'd be a real drag.

[rhythmchyc]

The cast is still full of top-notch actors. Some people are mildly irritating but even they are miles ahead of the actors on other soaps.

Some bright spots: Kevin Schmidt. Whenever he's on, which isn't enough, I really enjoy him. I just googled him and was surprised to find he was a chubby fella.

It's cool those days are over. I'm sure he feels the same way.

And of course Nina and Chloe. But I like Chance so far, too. That has been a pretty solid casting choice to me. He and Nina have really been a breath of fresh air. It's nice to have people from the real world invade Genoa City this way. Usually when characters invade, they're very flat and one can immediately surmise that they'll serve one, maybe two horrendous and shallow purposes. Nina and Chance have really integrated with cast in a positive way thus far. Sure, Chance is Mac in fatigues but at least he hasn't been as utterly pigeonholed in his relationship with Chloe as hastily as Mac had been with Billy. It's nice to see a new character who's not [!@#$%^&*] crazy.

[Sylph]

I'm waiting for Nikki do "die" in some kind of car crash only for us to find out it was fake Nikki and that the real one is held in a dungeon on an Island that exists out of the normal space/time universe by an evil sorceress who is after the first coin Victor earned.

[YRBB]

dmarex, on 01 August 2009 - 05:17 AM, said:

Just a year ago the show was going to good places, and nowadays it's sinking faster than Titanic...

Speaking of a year ago, I just subjected myself to a clip of Raya Meddine from CSI MIAMI and my God was she just intensely horrible. What made it even more surreal was the 2-3 Y&R fans underneath who talked about what a loss to Y&R Sabrina leaving was and that she is sorely missed.... OMG Queen MAB's gonna see it and bring Sabrina back!

[YRBB]

Sylph, on 01 August 2009 - 08:02 AM, said:

I'm waiting for Nikki do "die" in some kind of car crash only for us to find out it was fake Nikki and that the real one is held in a dungeon on an Island that exists out of the normal space/time universe by an evil sorceress who is after the first coin Victor earned.

As if all this wouldn't be better than what we have on-screen now.

[Sylph]

YRBB, on 01 August 2009 - 08:17 AM, said:

As if all this wouldn't be better than what we have on-screen now.

[dmarex]

YRBB, on 01 August 2009 - 08:15 AM, said:

Speaking of a year ago, I just subjected myself to a clip of Raya Meddine from CSI MIAMI and my God was she just intensely horrible. What made it even more surreal was the 2-3 Y&R fans underneath who talked about what a loss to Y&R Sabrina leaving was and that she is sorely missed.... OMG Queen MAB's gonna see it and bring Sabrina back!

She's horrible. I don't know who enjoyed seeing Sabrina and Victor weeks after weeks sitting at the ranch and talking French to each other. Did MAB really think we would be excited when Sabrina was buying all of that art stuff for Victor? This is a show (or at least was) about business, but we won't see any business storylines just as long as these writers are here.

[bellcurve]

Sylph, on 01 August 2009 - 07:02 AM, said:

I'm waiting for Nikki do "die" in some kind of car crash only for us to find out it was fake Nikki and that the real one is held in a dungeon on an Island that exists out of the normal space/time universe by an evil sorceress who is after the first coin Victor earned.

Psychic Espionage. It's Scott Hamner's FAVE!

[bellcurve]

The Potpourri Thread has always welcomed positive thought. I don't know why, all of a sudden, people think that this is the "We Hate Y&R" thread. This is for everything outside of episode discussion.

[Sylph]

bellcurve, on 01 August 2009 - 10:45 AM, said:

Psychic Espionage. It's Scott Hamner's FAVE!

Perhaps a three-line synopsis?

[Faulkner]

Didn't Hogan Sheffer explicitly say he doesn't do corporate storylines? That doesn't excuse MAB, but when he was hired, I remembered that Sheffer had said that.

[dmarex]

Faulkner, on 01 August 2009 - 11:12 AM, said:

Didn't Hogan Sheffer explicitly say he doesn't do corporate storylines? That doesn't excuse MAB, but when he was hired, I remembered that Sheffer had said that.

Then she's a moron for hiring him in the first place.

[bellcurve]

Sylph, on 01 August 2009 - 09:50 AM, said:

Perhaps a three-line synopsis?

It's not three lines, but I hope this helps.
(Source: SoapCentral)

Scott came close to killing DV and held him captive while taunting him over his love for Scott's biological mother Meg. DV sent Scott psychic images to convince Scott that Lucy was double-crossing him, leading Scott and Lucy to believe that DV was using psychic espionage. Kevin suggested that all of them break up and he and Lucy pretend to get back together so DV would let his guard down. All were reluctant, but agreed. Scott and Lucy uploaded a virus and successfully destroyed DV's evil Cobra Project. DV then kidnapped Lee but Scott and Kevin got him back. When Scott was arrested for shooting DV, everyone knew that he was being framed. Kevin and Eve found a corrupt cop that had been paid to plant evidence against Scott. Eve got the cop's confession on tape and Scott was cleared. Through all of this, DV Bordisso was revealed to be Scott's biological father!

I'm pretty sure most of this happened after Lynn Marie Lethal left. This was part of Scott Hamner's solo run as HW of Port Charles.

This post has been edited by bellcurve: 01 August 2009 - 10:28 AM

[Sylph]

Oh, wait. Then I didn't understand a thing. How does psychic espionage tie into my post?

[bellcurve]

Sylph, on 01 August 2009 - 10:34 AM, said:

Oh, wait. Then I didn't understand a thing. How does psychic espionage tie into my post?

It doesn't.

I use "Pyshcic Espionage" when generally referring to the silly, supernatural stuff that Hamner likes to do in addition to this "Movie Murder of the Week."

This post has been edited by bellcurve: 01 August 2009 - 10:38 AM