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Developing: A New Kind of SOAPnet in 2010?

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Posted 05 July 2009 - 02:22 PM

As posted on our Twitter page...

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Developing: A New kind of SOAPnet to debut in 2010. Will your soaps be safe?

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#2 User is offline   Ruxton Hills Icon

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Posted 05 July 2009 - 02:53 PM

Interesting news.. I have you on Twitter but havent checked it.
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 07:29 PM

I checked the Twitter page. I see nothing.

Quit c**kteasing and get to business Errol.
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 07:52 PM

Yeah not seeing it there either.......
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 08:32 PM

I believe what Errol was referring to was that he made a blurb about it on the SON Twitter page, and then just copied it to the message boards so that everyone could see it. ;)

In other words, no story...yet.
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 08:37 PM

Is Soapnet going to go "soapless" in 2010?
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 08:40 PM

I lost all respect for SOAPnet as a network when they got rid of Another World and refused to acquire any other daytime dramas, that could have easily appealed to their demographic(i.e. Swans Crossing, Sunset Beach, The City).

Thank goodness for YouTube!
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 08:47 PM

Could THIS be what Errol is referring to? Or is there more to this story? Per TVWeek.com:

http://www.tvweek.co...ality-serie.php


SoapNet Picks Up Two Reality Series, Second Season of 'Erica' TVWeek

SoapNet is adding two new reality series to its slate.

The network has picked up “Bank of Mom and Dad” from BBC Worldwide Productions and “Holidate” from ABC Media Productions.

“Bank of Mom and Dad,” which is adapted from a BBC format, follows women in their 20s and 30s as their Mom and Dad move in for one week to police their finances.

The 10-episode “Holidate” explores finding love in different cities. Originally a one-hour special, it is slated to premiere July 29.

Additionally, the network has picked up original scripted drama “Being Erica” from BBC Worldwide Sales & Distribution for a second season. The 12-episode second season will premiere in early 2010.

--Vlada Gelman

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Posted 05 July 2009 - 08:51 PM

View Postbellcurve, on 05 July 2009 - 09:47 PM, said:

Could THIS be what Errol is referring to? Or is there more to this story? Per TVWeek.com:

http://www.tvweek.co...ality-serie.php


SoapNet Picks Up Two Reality Series, Second Season of 'Erica' TVWeek

SoapNet is adding two new reality series to its slate.

The network has picked up "Bank of Mom and Dad" from BBC Worldwide Productions and "Holidate" from ABC Media Productions.

"Bank of Mom and Dad," which is adapted from a BBC format, follows women in their 20s and 30s as their Mom and Dad move in for one week to police their finances.

The 10-episode "Holidate" explores finding love in different cities. Originally a one-hour special, it is slated to premiere July 29.

Additionally, the network has picked up original scripted drama "Being Erica" from BBC Worldwide Sales & Distribution for a second season. The 12-episode second season will premiere in early 2010.

--Vlada Gelman


That's only a small part of it...
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 09:11 PM

View PostErrol, on 05 July 2009 - 08:51 PM, said:

That's only a small part of it...
GRRR! C'mon Errol. Just break this story before Nellie and Jamey get to it and try to "claim credit" for it.
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 09:50 PM

View Postbellcurve, on 05 July 2009 - 10:11 PM, said:

GRRR! C'mon Errol. Just break this story before Nellie and Jamey get to it and try to "claim credit" for it.

LOL! Errol, you have never gotten better advice. Take it. Break the story before those losers scoop you.
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 10:21 PM

I guess this will probably be goodbye to Ryan's Hope, the last of their classic soaps. Those Ryans are survivors.

Soapnet just sucks these days. I know all about how beloved their new shows are in the demo, or whatever, but I can't sit through them.
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Posted 06 July 2009 - 02:46 AM

View PostCarlD2, on 05 July 2009 - 10:21 PM, said:

I guess this will probably be goodbye to Ryan's Hope, the last of their classic soaps. Those Ryans are survivors.

Soapnet just sucks these days. I know all about how beloved their new shows are in the demo, or whatever, but I can't sit through them.
With the "new" SOAPnet, that will be a given. LOL. Ryan's needed a network that would follow it through it's growing pains instead of stopping because "the music licenses were too expensive."

I'm willing to bet aside from Y&R and maybe DAYS(which they have already paid for), they will replace the ABC lineup with movies, original reality shows, and reruns of those reality shows. I bet they will even change the name to usher in this new branding(i.e. CourtTV to tru, SciFi to SyFy, TNN to SPIKE). The new name will protect it from regressing in case the times get tough, ala GSN.

And if there ARE same-days to watch, they will either be available on the SOAPnet website and/or available in one showing in the graveyard hours.

Frons will spin it as a ratings and/or budgetary issue. If the residuals for television reruns have gone up with AFTRA, WGA, and DGA, I could see that as a reason to scale back on airings of all the show.

It would be ballsy if Frons ended up keeping Y&R and his pet, GH, seeing as those are the only two shows in widescreen HD. Frons may want to launch SOAPnet HD and in order to do that, he would have to kick OLTL and AMC to the curb.
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Posted 06 July 2009 - 03:05 AM

I think we're going to see more things like Being Erica and the reality shows.

I'd buy more then getting rid of the evening showings of soaps if they haven't had month and month of record growth for viewers for AMC and OLTL especially. They finally figured out how to get people to watch soaps later that night and double the revune for a show they own, why get rid of that?
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Posted 06 July 2009 - 03:57 AM

GH is becoming such an albatross, suddenly ABC's lowest rated soap in spite of the many millions spent on HD. And the ratings don't seem to be anything special for Soapnet either. Night Shift also did not prove to be a long term success. They have destroyed GH and yet still keep kicking the corpse.

I'm surprised RH has even lasted this long, unless there are other people like me who just have to see Sarah Felder or Ilene Kristen or Kate Mulgrew or Nell repeating stories 4 or 5 times. I don't think anything else will ever run any classic soaps. The "failure" of the classic soaps on Soapnet probably guarantees it.

It's so much cheaper and easier to just pump your channel full of refuse Canada does not want. Fine. Frons is a genius. Just change the name of the channel already. And perhaps, someday, put on some reruns of Avonlea, or You Can't Do That on Television, or that show which I don't remember the title of that ran in the 90s and was about a news station. Or that other show about forest rangers that used to run on Trio. Is Trio still around?

Or Celine Dion videos.

Celine Dion videos > Southern Belles.

This post has been edited by CarlD2: 06 July 2009 - 03:59 AM

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 05:34 AM

View PostCarlD2, on 06 July 2009 - 01:57 AM, said:

I'm surprised RH has even lasted this long, unless there are other people like me who just have to see Sarah Felder or Ilene Kristen or Kate Mulgrew or Nell repeating stories 4 or 5 times. I don't think anything else will ever run any classic soaps. The "failure" of the classic soaps on Soapnet probably guarantees it.

It's so much cheaper and easier to just pump your channel full of refuse Canada does not want. Fine. Frons is a genius. Just change the name of the channel already. And perhaps, someday, put on some reruns of Avonlea, or You Can't Do That on Television, or that show which I don't remember the title of that ran in the 90s and was about a news station. Or that other show about forest rangers that used to run on Trio. Is Trio still around?

Honestly, id love to see classic soaps. However, that failure of them on soapnet should seal the fate. Hopefully whoever own's the rites will seel them to online markets.

And you cant just change a name of a network. Its not simple. They also risk losing the clearance they have in markets and with companies.
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Posted 06 July 2009 - 06:42 AM

View PostJackPeyton, on 06 July 2009 - 05:34 AM, said:

Honestly, id love to see classic soaps. However, that failure of them on soapnet should seal the fate. Hopefully whoever own's the rites will seel them to online markets.


SOAPnet never gave "classic" daytime soaps a fair shake to begin with. They restarted Ryan's Hope more times than anyone cares to mention. Not to mention, a show like Sunset Beach could have been easily and cheaply acquired and they didn't even bother going for it. And Sunset Beach would easily appeal to their target demo.

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And you cant just change a name of a network. Its not simple. They also risk losing the clearance they have in markets and with companies.
Why not?! As I mentioned previously, many networks have changed their name before with little to no resistance. I think a name change would help SOAPnet revamp its image and keep it moving ahead as a reality/teen drama rehash, in the event the newer programs tank.

View PostCarlD2, on 06 July 2009 - 03:57 AM, said:

Celine Dion videos > Southern Belles.

Damn right!

This post has been edited by bellcurve: 06 July 2009 - 06:43 AM

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 06:56 AM

View Postbellcurve, on 06 July 2009 - 04:42 AM, said:

SOAPnet never gave "classic" daytime soaps a fair shake to begin with. They restarted Ryan's Hope more times than anyone cares to mention. Not to mention, a show like Sunset Beach could have been easily and cheaply acquired and they didn't even bother going for it. And Sunset Beach would easily appeal to their target demo.

Why not?! As I mentioned previously, many networks have changed their name before with little to no resistance. I think a name change would help SOAPnet revamp its image and keep it moving ahead as a reality/teen drama rehash, in the event the newer programs tank.

I disagree. Soapnet did give it a good chance. Esp with Another World and Ryans Hope. AW failed, miserably so.

And im sorry, i was wrong. I was going off the drama of the family chan to fox family to abc family.

That said, as much as we hate to admit it for whatever reason most of what soapnet shows ARE soaps. The OC is a soap. 90210 is a soap. OC is a soap. Not a daytime soap, a primetime soap, but still a soap. And the network is SOAPnet, not DAYTIMESOAPnet. Those shows along with reruns of current soaps make up at least 75% of the lineup.
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Posted 06 July 2009 - 09:41 AM

I also think that SoapNet gave Ryan's Hope and Another World a fair run. The truth is that there is simply not a huge audience for soap re-runs. SoapNet's audience is tiny as it stands.

I have no problem with SoapNet showing reruns of prime time soaps. I just started watching the O.C. which I never paid attention to before. I also like the reruns of the Gilmore Girls.

SoapNet is supposedly barely making a profit. If they decide to stop the same day re-airings and change its name, it sounds like good business strategy. I never thought that the same day re-airings were profitable other than maybe Y&R.
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Posted 06 July 2009 - 06:41 PM

As promised: SOAPnet Ready to Breakout
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