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1 minute ago, DramatistDreamer said:

And Megan Kelly once cast herself as the next Oprah. Oh, what irony!

I thought she cast herself as the next Barbara Walters? Thus the big special on Fox with Trump that flopped in the ratings big time.

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Also, from the NYT pre-Comey bombshell:

 

WASHINGTON — The disclosure that President Trump divulged classified intelligence to two high-ranking Russian officials was a new blow to an already dispirited and besieged White House staff still recovering from the uproar and recriminations from the president’s firing of James B. Comey, the F.B.I. director.

 

Mr. Trump’s appetite for chaos, coupled with his disregard for the self-protective conventions of the presidency, have left his staff confused and squabbling. And his own mood, according to two advisers who spoke on the condition of anonymity, has become sour and dark, turning against most of his aides — even his son-in-law, Jared Kushner — and describing them in a fury as “incompetent,” according to one of those advisers.

 

Even before the latest bombshell dropped, reports swirled in the White House that the president was about to embark on a major shake-up, probably starting with the dismissal or reassignment of Sean Spicer, the press secretary.

 

Mr. Trump’s rattled staff kept close tabs on a meeting early Monday in which the president summoned Mr. Spicer; the deputy press secretary, Sarah Huckabee Sanders; and the communications director, Michael Dubke, to lecture them on the need “to get on the same page,” according to a person briefed on the meeting. Even as Mr. Trump reassured advisers like Mr. Spicer that their jobs were safe at the morning meeting, he told other advisers he knew he needed to make big changes but did not know which direction to go in, or whom to select.

 

Later, reporters could hear senior aides shouting from behind closed doors as they discussed a defense after Washington Post reporters informed them of an article they were writing that first reported the news about the president’s divulging of intelligence.

 

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In his comments to reporters on Monday, Senator Bob Corker, a Tennessee Republican close to some in the White House, was explicit about the situation.

 

“Obviously they’re in a downward spiral right now,” he said, “and they’ve got to figure out a way to come to grips with all that’s happening.”

 

A dozen of Mr. Trump’s aides and associates, while echoing Mr. Trump’s defiance, privately agreed with Mr. Corker’s view. They spoke candidly, in a way they were unwilling to do just weeks ago, about the damage that was being done to the administration’s standing and the fatigue that was setting in after months of having to defend the president’s missteps, Twitter posts and unpredictable actions.

 

The latest crisis comes at the worst possible time for Mr. Trump’s team. His national security and foreign policy staffs have been spending much of their time planning for his coming eight-day trip to the Middle East and Europe — his first major overseas trip as president, and an opportunity, they thought, to reset the narrative of his presidency after the lingering controversy of Mr. Comey’s sudden dismissal last week.

 

There is a growing sense that Mr. Trump seems unwilling or unable to do the things necessary to keep himself out of trouble, and that the presidency has done little to tame a shoot-from-the-hip-into-his-own-foot style that characterized his campaign.

 

There is a fear among some of Mr. Trump’s senior advisers about leaving him alone in meetings with foreign leaders out of concern he might speak out of turn. General McMaster, in particular, has tried to insert caveats or gentle corrections into conversations when he believes the president is straying off topic or onto boggy diplomatic ground.

 

This has, at times, chafed the president, according to two officials with knowledge of the situation. Mr. Trump, who still openly laments having to dismiss his first national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, has groused that General McMaster talks too much in meetings, and the president has referred to him as “a pain,” according to one of the officials.

 

In private, three administration officials conceded that they could not publicly articulate their most compelling — and honest — defense of the president: that Mr. Trump, a hasty and indifferent reader of printed briefing materials, simply did not possess the interest or knowledge of the granular details of intelligence gathering to leak specific sources and methods of intelligence gathering that would do harm to United States allies.


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34 minutes ago, Wendy said:

You know what I think is going to happen? Not. One. Thing. Unfortunately.

I think it's frankly too soon anyway.

 

It will be interesting to see Comey testify. Lindsey Graham has now asked him to testify publicly.

 

 

2 hours ago, Soapsuds said:

Yup, and 60 Minutes got Oprah!

Oh heck I had forgotten about that. Kelly major fail.

 

Oprah trumps almost anyone.

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So according to Erik Erickson, in the 2 house races upcoming(Montana and Georgia 6), the democrats have pulled ahead in both races. Apparently Bernie is going to Montana over the weekend for a few rally's with Quist. Lord I hope he doesn't kill the momentum. I have yet to see one Bernie candidate win a race.

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11 hours ago, JaneAusten said:

I wonder if Netanyahu still thinks Trump is the greatest.

In a matter of one week Trump has destroyed the reputations of Rosenstein and McMaster, 2 well respected public servants. 

I wonder if he ever really did? I think there were a lot of wealthy Jewish donors and Israeli politicians who hoped to use Trump. A deal with the Devil so to speak.

 

I think Netanyahu and Trump were close to an unholy alliance that would have had potentially awful consequences, so if this intelligence betrayal throws a wrench in this we are all better off. Like @DramatistDreamermy husband thinks Netanyahu is an extremist. I'm less sure or at least I'm more sympathetic to people trying to govern is a country with constant terrorist attacks. Is it possible to govern justly and keep your population safe?  I think Trump has inadvertently saved BN from his worst impulses though. Moving that damn embassy to Jerusalem would have been nothing but trouble.

16 minutes ago, JaneAusten said:

So according to Erik Erickson, in the 2 house races upcoming(Montana and Georgia 6), the democrats have pulled ahead in both races. Apparently Bernie is going to Montana over the weekend for a few rally's with Quist. Lord I hope he doesn't kill the momentum. I have yet to see one Bernie candidate win a race.

I also saw an article today lamenting Bernie keeping the door open to a run in 2020 when he will be 79 years old.  I like Sanders more than some here, but I think he needs to step aside and support someone younger, for so many reasons.

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