Thanks for all this info. I never knew Agnes came back to the show. I still wonder what could have been if they'd given the show a little more time, the cast and the stories were finally gelling.
Nixon wrote from November 1993 until the summer of 1994.
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Yes indeed, Egypt was very Opal, just as Ava and Kate were Erica and Mona etc. Poor Loving, SUCH potential, I'm reminded of stories of Lemay's For Richer, For Poorer, or even The Colbys... I wish Nixon could have been even more hands on.
I think Nixon was fairly hands on. She co-wrote the first two years with Marland and then succeeded him solely as headwriter. Anyone know how long? I don't think her vision for "Loving" worked to be honest. The stories were terribly weak. The fact that soap books overlook Cyd Quilling's run as Dolly Jones is fairly notable considering the character dominated the 1985-1986 season. Having a former prostitute learn the child she gave up for adoption was the star of kiddie porn certainly wasn't going to bring in the viewers. Similarly, the complex, corporate storyline involving the takeover of Alden Enterprises floundered under Nixon instead focusing on her favorite storyline: Jonathan returning from the dead to taunt all those invovled with him. After Marland left, the work became less intricate and story threads stopped spinning.
Ava was certainly a social climber under Nixon, but she definitely had Marland's mark on her. Ava worked on a construction site for goodness sakes. Could you imagine Erica doing that?
I suspect Nixon consulted in the 1992 college revamp. Considering Nixon rewrote the abuse storyline later on as well as the inclusion of Dr. Ron Turner, who appeared on "Loving" in 1983 in Lily's storyline, makes me believe Nixon may have suggested the Coop storyline. Plus, Hannah was the typical Nixonian heroine. Also, Ava was suddenly working for Burnell's, a company that the Aldens owned in the 1980s, and a mysterious boss was watching over Ava. I think it was clear Curtis was set to return to woo Ava. Instead, we got Leo Burnell, Ava's high school love who founded Burnell's.
To be honest, the biggest problem for "Loving" post-college revamp was no writer, producer, story, or character stayed long enough to give the show vision. Nixon was working on giving the show a vision, and I think she was grooming Walsh and McCarthy to take over. Unfortunately, I think they made MAJOR mistakes. Nixing the brilliant Cradle Foundation storyline, recasting Dinah Lee when she should have been killed off, offing Elise Neal's Janie Sinclair (the African American Erica Kane), not utilizing the veterans, and focusing on the Gilbert/Jeremy saga. The only McCarthy/Walsh story I liked was Who Ran Down Clay Alden?
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I also really liekd Hannah especially with Cooper. Oh well
I just thought Hannah was too vanilla. Gayheart didn't have the zest required for an actress to play a heroine of her breed. Hannah lacked the personality needed to bring the character to life. I felt like Heinle's Stephanie was always trying to overcome personal demons. Her Stephanie lacked self confidence, but she wanted to be a better person. She was more gray than Hannah, which worked for egotistical Cooper.
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Gilbert, Jeremy's evil twin, was Agnes? it's always funny to me when agnes does such cliche soap storylines but of course a part of her seems to enjoy some of the more over the top stuff (she did the 80s Loving story with the villain who turned into a snake and was implied to have ties to Satan or whatever).
The Gilbert storyline and the Jonathan Maitland storyline were similar. In both stories, Gwyn Alden slept with a man who she believed was her lover. Gwyn had to be the dumbest woman in the world. She slept with Gilbert thinking he was Jeremy, Jonathan thinking he was Keith, and Alex thinking he was Clay. Both stories had one brother taking over their brother's life. Each tortured the show's heroine of the moment (Gilbert/Ava and Jonathan/Lorna). Nixon only wrote a little of the Gilbert story. I suspect Marland probably approved of the second round of Jonathan Maitland as he too had a gothic flair at times.
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Was Egypt and Alex under Nixon?
I believe Ralph Ellis introduced Egypt, but Nixon may have had a hand in it.
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Loving did have a weird beginning--originally it was a creation between Agnes and novelist Dan Wakefield (who wrote the awesome All Her Children and was a huge fan--also did the teen drama in the 70s James at 15, apparantly a huge influence on Dawson's Creek) with co creation credit but they seemd to have different views or something as by the time it started Marland was HW and had co creator credit (even if the basic setup was very much 1970s AMC with a bit of Marland influence in the Donovan family).
This is purely speculation, but I suspect the show's opening months was Wakefield's original vision for the show. The show was more Lemay than either Nixon or Marland. The show was more character vignettes rather than the complex plotting of Marland or the colorful characters of Nixon. This would explain why the Merrill Vochek/Roger Forbes love affair was quickly dropped. The political nature of the story was very different from the writing of Nixon and Marland. Also, it would explain why the Lily Slater storyline was quickly dropped without much drama behind the scenes.
I think Marland was given more free reign with the revisions. Once the Lily and Roger/Merrill storylines were dropped, the main storyline was the Edy Lester/Jonathan Maitland mystery which took up most of 1984. This mystery was typical Marland, complex murder mystery, but I think the problem was it went nowhere. There was no fallout from this story. While I suspect Shana and Jim were suppose to be the main couple, Jack and Stacey emerged as the leads because they had been there since the beginning.
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What confuse sme is why Marland's name was removed from create dby when he left--Agnes Nixon has always it seems had great things to say about him so I don't think it was a fight
To be honest, I don't think Marland and Nixon was a match named in heaven. They were two very different people stylistically and both had a lot of clout. I suspect this is why Wakefield and Nixon also parted ways. Collaboration isn't easy and I suspect they simply didn't agree on very much, but both respected what they gave the genre. When Marland left, Nixon took the stories in a completely different direction. Maybe Marland asked for the creator credit to be removed because he didn't feel it was fair to take credit for something he wasn't that involved in. Unfortunately, we will probably never really know the truth because both are (were) too decent to discuss why things didn't work out. The fact that neither have said much about it speaks volumes though.