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#1 Andrew

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 03:52 PM

What do you all say, i must admit i think almost all of the actors who have had their face worked on many times, are getting worse as actors, they have no emotions or cant act at all, Jackie Zeman who where a great actress, has had to much done, to act soon, the same with Lauren Koslow, Renee Jones, Deidre Hall, Susan Lucci, they cant show an inch in their face like naturally talents like Susan Flannery, what do you all here think, does plastic surgery affect abbility to act on soapoperas?...
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#2 DaytimeFan

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 04:45 PM

Well aside from her nose, chest and eyes Jackie Zeman's look is courtesy of Botox and Restylane. I'm one of the minority who actually think that she still looks pretty good. I think when people are surprised by her look it is because she's just had something injected.

Lauren Koslow and Renee Jones, in my opinion, have not had much, if any plastic surgery. Just some Botox and Restylane and quite conservative use at that. They don't look 'done' they just look like they always have: gorgeous.

Deidre Hall's plastic surgeon should get the Nobel Prize, she looks wonderful.

Susan Lucci also looks great, but should give it a rest, she'll look a bit severe if she keeps at it.

Leslie Charleson, who I love, I think had a bad facelift. She looks a bit pulled.

Jeanne Cooper is the definitive example of soap opera plastic surgery, it was wonderful for her and her acting never suffered.

I only think plastic surgery or cosmetic dermatology hurts an actress if it is overdone and drastic. That being said, if the actress is game for it, she can make the transformation work in her favour by working it into the storyline.
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#3 R Sinclair

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 05:19 PM

I remember when Susan Lucci came back from her... "vacation..." during the whole Desiree Dubois storyline, and Erica was crying over her father's coffin, it was sooooo distracting because her face looked "renewed" and tight and shiney and soooo totally incapable of emoting beyond a mere wince, if even THAT.

I enjoy seeing clips of Susan pre-"facial renewal" as Erica. I heard that she even wondered if she were going to get the Erica part back when she auditioned because she feared she looked too "ethnic" for the role, but that's what I enjoy immensely about her look back in the 70's and 80's. The dark hair and the bold strong features is what made her beautiful. That look, to me, was Erica Kane. But, over the last seven years or so, she's slowly chisled away at that look.

It's funny. I think Alicia Minshew and Eden Riegel are perfectly cast as Erica's daughters, because Eden looks like a pre-"renewed" Lucci, and Lish looks like a young post-"renewed" Lucci.

Edited by R Sinclair, 01 December 2007 - 05:22 PM.

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#4 Graciecat

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 06:23 PM

Plastic surgery is a major risk for an actress, but one which many seem game to take.

Jackie Zeman, has, I think, had the very worst procedures. Her breasts look botched, and her lips look duck-like. However, I actually think she has more facial mobility than most of the others on the list. I don't think the "work" has particularly affected her acting.
Conversely, Deidre Hall looks absolutely incredible. The woman looks at least fifteen years younger than she is. I've never seen a woman of sixty who looks that good. HOWEVER, I do think it's affected her acting. She doesn't seem to be able to open her eyes all the way.

Leslie Charleson's facelift/botox looks painful, and I think it's affected her facial mobility very much. It looks laborious for her to open and close her eyes.

I don't mind Susan Lucci's work in the least. It seems very in character, actually. And acting has never really been what she's known for. I don't think she shouldn't go any farther, though.

I also think Robin Strasser has had something. The woman has no wrinkles, and at her age, that isn't really possible. I don't think it has affected her acting, though.
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#5 DeeeDee

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 08:22 PM

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I've never seen a woman of sixty who looks that good.


Two Words.

Jess Walton.
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#6 Tishy

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 08:27 PM

QUOTE (DeeeDee @ Dec 1 2007, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Two Words.

Jess Walton.


Totally agree
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#7 Paul Raven

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 08:29 PM

I don't think there is an actress or actor over 50 in a lead role who hasn't had some sort of work done.

It is more obvious on some than others-maybe some people have better skin to start off with,or just better doctors.

When Drake,Deidre and Thaao were asked on the Australian interview how they kept so youthful.by an audience member.there was a slight pause before Drake jumped in with the old healthy living,gym,positive attitude line!!

Kim Zimmer admitted to a face lift in the 90's. as did Jennifer Bassey I think.

Josh Taylor and Robert Woods have obviously had work done.

Erica Slezak,Suzanne Rogers,Tina Sloan,Lesley Ann Down,Jess Walton,Colleen Zenk and many others are all well over 50 and practically wrinkle free.

I think younger performers in their 30's and 40's are also having 'preventative' work down.

I think ,in many ways,it mirrors what is happening in society.There seem to be these clinics on every corner,yet no-one admits to using them.

Whether you agree or not is another issue!
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#8 Soapsuds

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 08:31 PM

Dont get me started on plastic surgery. laugh.gif Some of these lady actress are 20/25 years older than me and they look younger than me. huh.gif
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Posted 01 December 2007 - 08:42 PM

I can't believe Hunter Tylo hasn't been mentioned yet in this thread! The WORST case of plastic surgery on Daytime!!!

I think her acting is just fine, but in some cases her new look certainly detracts from the show if you remember what a beauty she was before she had any work done.
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#10 Gray Bunny

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 08:45 PM

QUOTE (Graciecat @ Dec 1 2007, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Leslie Charleson's facelift/botox looks painful, and I think it's affected her facial mobility very much. It looks laborious for her to open and close her eyes.


laugh.gif I totally agree with this. I can't believe how unnatural she looks. She seriously looks like a burnt victim that's had major reconstructive surgery to look half-way normal again.


It's all about getting work done gradually over time. Deidre Hall looks amazing. Even up close in person, she looks fabulous.
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#11 jcar03

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 08:59 PM

QUOTE (angelonmyside @ Dec 1 2007, 07:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I can't believe Hunter Tylo hasn't been mentioned yet in this thread! The WORST case of plastic surgery on Daytime!!!

I think her acting is just fine, but in some cases her new look certainly detracts from the show if you remember what a beauty she was before she had any work done.


I was gonna say the same thing until I saw your post. She looks awful. Whats worst is that she tries to deny it.
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#12 Quent

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 09:08 PM

Josh Taylor looks like he belongs at Madame Tussauds.
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#13 Kay

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 09:15 PM

I remember a scene when Bobbie Eakes was doing a really emotional scene with David Canary after the Jenny kidnapping hullabaloo. She was trying to show emotion on her face, but the botox was clearly holding her back. I was moved by their scenes, but her cosmetic surgery was distracting (had she not had anything done, I would've been totally vested in the scene).

My mom also commented on Susan Lucci the other day. She was soo distracted by her neck (it was all wrinkled, while her face was all tight). The contast was too striking (same for Leslie Charleson, really). Jackie Zeman's lips are distracting. Personally, I think if they put on 5-10 pounds, it might help fill out their face, and they wouldn't need botox or a facelift (but weight is another topic).

When I think about it, any time an actor has had work done, you can totally tell anytime they have to emote beyond a smirk--because they can't even use the muscles in their forehead. It's like straining to show us what should come naturally.
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Posted 01 December 2007 - 09:21 PM

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My mom also commented on Susan Lucci the other day. She was soo distracted by her neck (it was all wrinkled, while her face was all tight).


Glad someone noticed. laugh.gif
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#15 adrianna17

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 09:25 PM

Linda Dano had a face lift (it was written onto show) and I thought she still was fabulous and could cry spot on.
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Posted 01 December 2007 - 10:14 PM

QUOTE (Tishy @ Dec 1 2007, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Totally agree


Amen.

Y&R's actresses get better looking with age.

Jess, Jeanne, Mel Scott, Vicki Rowell, Heather Tom, Marla Adams, Kim Brown, Tonya Williams, Alex Donnelly, Eileen Davidson, Tracey Bregman, Sharon Case, Lauralee Bell, Tricia Cast, Veronica Redd, Ashley Bashioum, Lauren Woodland, Lyndsy Fonseca, Beth Maitland...
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#17 DaytimeFan

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 10:52 PM

It seems the Y&R actresses know who does the best work because ALL of them look great. Not one of them looks botched. At ABC the inverse seems true, there is a lot more bad work at that network than anywhere else.

Hunter Tylo: Yes, definitely the worst (and saddest since she had nothing that needed fixing) case of plastic surgery.

As far as those who admit to Botox: Jennifer Bassey (I've read her denying a facelift...) and Lesley Anne Down (who responded "Bloody Hell Yes!" to the Botox question).

Jess Walton is a funny one, she looks flat out amazing and yet, I'm somewhat inclined to think that she hasn't had surgery because she has aged...just exceptionally well. Botox is certainly my thought but I'm thinking her clearly problem free skin has been helped along by Restylane.

Julia Barr also looks flawless and yet not 'done' in the least.

Very surprised about Kim Zimmer admitting to a facelift. Very surprised. Without being cold, I love Zimmer, it hasn't seemed to help her stave off aging.

Finally, on Robin Strasser's website she admits to the following: 2 breast implant surgeries, 1 eyejob and 1 neck lift. She says, point blank, that she is "the last of the divas of [her] generation to have not had a full facelift"

And you know when it comes to Susan Flannery...she may not have touched her face...but those gorgeous cat eyes of hers? Someone who I think never had any work was Darlene Conley, she just slapped on the makeup, wore something flashy, combed through her fantastic red hair and let her presence do the rest.

When it comes to result there are several influencing factors: the condition of the patient's skin is so important, those who were sun worshipers pay the price, their surgery or Botox or whatever will never look as good as someone who stayed out of the sun. A patient's weight, those who manage a steady weight have better skin elasticity and recover faster. Finally, the surgeon for obvious reasons.

I think the key to all of it is that the work is done well and that actresses don't look too 'done'. Even when that happens, however, if the actress can work her overdone look into the show by making her character bolder, brasher and sassier it can all work. When it comes to many of these actresses I think plastic surger is a somewhat forced issue. Would Leslie Charleson have had her (bad) facelift if ABC wasn't the most ageist network in daytime? The sad fact is that Hollywood hates looking old and it detests those who let themselves age. I happen to hate the ageism that has hit daytime, I think if people want to get work (like Jeanne Cooper did way back in 1984) then they should, but to feel that you'll lose your job or the love of the audience by naturally aging is offensive to me.

Edited by DaytimeFan, 01 December 2007 - 11:26 PM.

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 11:43 PM

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Would Leslie Charleson have had her (bad) facelift if ABC wasn't the most ageist network in daytime? The sad fact is that Hollywood hates looking old and it detests those who let themselves age. I happen to hate the ageism that has hit daytime, I think if people want to get work (like Jeanne Cooper did way back in 1984) then they should, but to feel that you'll lose your job or the love of the audience by naturally aging is offensive to me.


I agree. I hate that these gorgeous women, most of whom would have aged beautifully naturally, feel the need to get these surgeries. At ABC in particular, I'm sure the women feel a lot of pressure to look young to get stories. And it still doesn't work. My heart really goes out to them.

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Finally, on Robin Strasser's website she admits to the following: 2 breast implant surgeries, 1 eyejob and 1 neck lift. She says, point blank, that she is "the last of the divas of [her] generation to have not had a full facelift"


Really? That surprises me. In that case, her skin looks incredible. I think she looks fantastic.
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Posted 02 December 2007 - 12:14 AM

ATWT actresses also age well.

Helen Wagner, Kat Hayes, Eileen Fulton, Tamara Tunie, Ellen Dolan, Kelly Hensley, Martha Byrne, Maura West, Terri Colombino, Kat Widdoes, Colleen Zenk Pinter, Marie Masters all still look great.
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Posted 02 December 2007 - 01:05 AM

I do not necessarily think it affects acting because, for a short period of time, they are not as able to emote much but once the surgery is put into place then the emoting becomes easier.

I think actresses like Deidre Hall, Susan Lucci, Erika Slezak, and Robin Strasser look great with work done while Jess Walton and Jeanne Cooper look fairly good as well

Leslie Charleson, Jacklyn Zeman, and Hunter Tylo should never get surgery done ever again.

As for me, if I had the money and time, I would get work done as well.

Edited by DevotedToAMC, 02 December 2007 - 01:05 AM.

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