Word on pretty much everything you said. I do think Dorinda did the best she could in the circumstances. Dis-inviting Sonja was likely producer-mandated -- aka Bethenny refuses to film with TipsyGirl! How interesting that Carole does not demand the same thing with LuAnn. Looks like Carole badly needs LuAnn to hate on while LuAnn has her SLs with Bethenny, Sonja and Tom and couldn't care less.
Personally I love Dorinda because she has a lot of heart. I hope she is not too deep into the *alleged* drugs. Personally I believe all the NY HWs are using/abusing something. Possibly coke. Allegedly. LuAnn's a partier. Sonja... well, we've all seen her high as a kite. Same with Ramona. Same with Dorinda. Bethenny and Jules? I don't know. Maybe as part of their weight-loss program? And Carole openly tokes and takes ecstasy because she is so hip to the 'young people' now.
LuAnn owns that she loves men and loves having a good time. She smokes and parties and adores that whole nightlife/freebee invites thing. So I give her props for not pretending to be something she isn't. *side-eyes Phaedra* In NYC people are pretty open about their love life and dating around.
LuAnn was totally baiting Bethenny when she said she 'helped' come up with the idea for Skinny Girl. I understand why Bethenny was pissed about that. However, Bethenny has been such an ice-cold bitch. She pretends she doesn't care about anything and is the truth-teller, but she is constantly belittling the other women. Being bitchy is not a sign of strength, it's a sign of weakness because she wants to be the only top dog on the show. I am sure she will kick LuAnn'd ass next week though for daring to suggest that Bethenny is not a lone business whizzkid.
Ramona is tacky for not cleaning up after her pooping dog.
After watching a few minutes here and there of last seasons' NJ, I swore I would never watch the show again. It was absolutely awful. The three newbies made me want the Manzos and Wakiles back. However, I did watch that Teresa Behind Bars three-parter (or whatever it was called) and kind of fell back in love with Juicy and the Giudices again. This ^^ is actually a pretty good trailer considering last year's options.
I can't help liking Juicy Joe and Chris Laurita, crooked as they are. I hope Juicy and Rosie reheat their bromance because that was the best thing ever. Spray-On Wig I sometimes forget is even on the show, pawing at his wife for sex. I cannot stand Jacqueline Laurita and her awful excuse for a daughter but I guess that classifies as a hate-watch. Same with Melissa Gorga. I hope we are spared Sushi Richie this year. Basically I hope this season delivers, it has a lot of ground to make up.
As for the OC trailer -- I see Shannon Beador has not forgiven Vicki yet. I also see that David is still on his I'm Sorry I Had An Affair worldwide apology tour, and that Heather still cannot act (if that fake crying scene in the limo is anything to go by). And everytime I see Tamra, I just have this visceral reaction. I really cannot stand that foul woman. When is anybody ever going to call her ratchet ass out once and for all??
Don't worry, we all understand That may be another reason why I don't want to pick up Cheshire and Dallas also.
Speaking of catching up... RHoNY:
I cannot even process anything other than REY. That creepy, coked-up stalker. Anybody who chases LuAnn (of all people!) out of a party with an open bar HAS to be somebody you do not want to meet in a dark alley. Even Sonja, queen of bad judgement when it comes to who she surrounds herself with, was like "Get your face out of mine, you creepy f*ck."
The fact that Ramona went to bat for this ass-boil speaks volume as to the person she is. We always knew Ramona to be selfish and rude on a Tourette's level. She was also a truth-teller on the show in an entertaining way which is kind of why she has stayed there so long. After the divorce from Mario, we all thought a more grounded Ramona was emerging, but it turns out she is as trashy and spiteful as she ever was. She glommed onto this crazy for one reason -- to get cruel gossip on LuAnn so she could continue to denigrate her around town. I can't stand John, but he was completely in the right when it came to throwing these two out of the party. Ramona is trash.
Bethenny, as hateful and hard as she is, rightfully called out Sonja for all her shady business dealings including this latest one. I like Sonja and felt for her when she started to cry because Bethenny was cruel and harsh. However, Sonja is surrounded by Yes People who coddle her and probably rob her blind when she is passed out drunk on a bed. She needs to hear some cold, hard home truths. She has started some businesses which have gone nowhere and probably filched a lot of other people's money in the process. Bethenny is just letting her know that she is onto her and she won't be able to filch her business idea.
The more Carole's boy toy, Adam, appears on the show, the more physically unappealing he comes across. To the point where I'm like "Princess Granny Bradshaw can do better, no?"
OMG NBA I love you! I've been waiting forever for this Reunion to be released!
I cannot believe how streamlined that was. Just ONE Reunion episode -- not three -- and pretty much all the major hits were covered.
First of all, bow down to Alex "Care Factor Zero/I'm Not a Sex Worker" Perry. His hosting puts Andy Cohen to shame. Yes, he does seem to adore Janet the most, but he was fair with everybody and let everyone speak their peace and even tried to moderate the shouting. When he walked off and then came back and tore them all a new one I almost cried:
"When you all talk AT THE SAME TIME, we get JACK. SH!T. Nothing. It's the third fuckin series! You know that! But no, jump in, everybody have a go... Jesus! What is the matter with you? OK, shut up, let's get this next one out."
Gina: I love Gina but she was dismissive of Gamble's feelings and she shouldn't be. I love their friendship but it is clear that Gina is the more powerful one and views Gamble's friendship as one of many, whereas Gamble obviously looks up to GIna. It's too bad, because I do think Gina has let the fame go to her head a bit.
Gamble: I love Gamble a LOT and always find myself sympathetic of her feelings. I can see she is struggling to maintain a friendship with Gina that is both give and take and on an equal par. Unfortunately, I don't think this is a friendship that Gina necessarily cares about and therefore it will lapse. And that's a pity because not all friendships are the same, and Gamble is probably a more loyal ally than a lot of Gina's tagalongs. I didn't particularly like Gamble standing up for Lydia tho. What is there to defend? Lydia is a fake and a snake.
Susie: Susie is dull but direct, to the point, completely true to herself, and badly needed on a show like this. The way she outed Lydia for the rat she was concise and perfect. Other than that, I couldn't care less about her or her dating life.
Janet: I can always count on Janet to bring it at these Reunions! Yes, the "you dumb, fat bitch" was way personal about Lydia. Doesn't mean it's not true, however.
Pettifleur: At the end of the season it looked like Pettifleur, after being on the outs with everybody, was starting to gain some ounce of self-awareness. Oh well, looks like she has completely regressed on that personal growth. What a delusional nut. Still thinks she is on a fabulosity par with Joan Collins when she is at best a Z list wannabe. She just sounds ridiculous and vulgar. BTW, Janet's imitation of her ("Who begs to diffah? Why do you need Spanx if you are in da best shape of your life?") was uncanny!
Jackie: I know she's an acquired taste. But I like her and think she is genuine on the whole. Yes, she is self-righteous, and it will be interesting to see what happens when she is eventually called out on her own mistakes. But she was the only one (along with Janet) willing to call out Lydia for the slime she is. Kudos.
Chyka: I love her. Even though she barely spoke, she is clearly OVAH everyone and doesn't want to talk anymore about the rumors nobody can talk about. Obvs there must be gay rumors regarding Bruce. I don't think he is gay BTW. But she is done, and she wants to protect her family and her business. If RHoMelbourne returns for a season 4, I will miss her.
Lydia: WTF was she wearing? She looked like a bride wearing a turtleneck who had been attacked by dogs on the way to the church. She got off easy considering, but I guess that was thanks to "legal issues" nobody is allowed to mention. Lydia is also the most unconvincing liar known to man. I don't think anybody believed that wet denial about not sleeping with Shane Warne.
All in all... I hope RHOM will be back but it felt a little like goodbye so I don't know. Still, it has been my favorite RH franchise this year by a country mile. Just the way they have each other pegged is so glorious.
I never understood the point either. Initially it was a plot point to tear asunder 'star-crossed lovers' Mac and Billy who, with recast actors, just did not have the same chemistry and following anymore. So it was really about paving a fast exit for these two characters at the time.
I was also saddened that the SL reduced Liz Foster to a lying footnote. Liz Foster represented integrity itself in the the first decade or so of Y&R's existence. She triumphed over adversity, was a kind and loving woman and mother who worked hard and had enormous empathy for her drunken employer, Katherine. She was a touchstone in Jill's life, reminding her of her blue collar roots but never in an "omg I'm so ashamed to even be related to a poor mother!" way. There was no need to unify Katherine and Jill as mother and daughter for their own sake. None. It would have been more moving if, in later years, these two became close and looked out for each other DESPITE having had this horrendous rivalry and no blood ties (a little bit like what happened on B&B between Brooke and Stephanie when Stephanie was dying).
I know that what I have said is sacrilegious, and when Jess Walton first replaced BD I was thrilled that such a strong performer was coming in to replace an increasingly erratic one. IA that BD got very "Alexis Colby preserved in aspic" the last year or two of the show, and JW restored a lot of the flesh-and-blood characterization to the part of Jill. She was also a sexy, powerful figure and I love that I grew up with female characters like that on my soaps! However, as the writers turned her away from Jabot and returned to the Jill vs Katherine rivalry -- and ofc I love that rivalry as much as the rest of us -- Jill came across as increasingly hard, shrewish, an 'old lady' in need of a good man as she battled to run the Chancellor mansion... I kind of fell out of love with that Jill and the way she was being played. JMPO. It coincided with the sanctification of Katherine, too, but really it was the "Katherine is your mother yes/no/maybe" mess where I yearned for the 'old Jill' again.
It is not a critique of JW's acting, which has always been excellent. Just that Jill got very brittle and bitter and while obviously lots of characters do get bitter over time, Jill lost that optimism that things would get better, that she would CLAW her way to better circumstances, that she would regain control and once again be a force to be reckoned with...
I'm not sure I am explaining myself very well, lol. Sometimes it is hard to explain a feeling.
Interesting that many of the successful recasts (or so-called successful recasts) of beloved characters on Y&R have gone from actors who were crackling with incredible sexual energy and/or were forces of nature (Terry Lester, Brenda Dickson, Heather Tom)... to actors who are strong in their craft but completely lack that feline sexiness (Peter Bergman, Jess Walton) or intense emotion (Amelia Heinle, the wettest actress on the show -- and that's saying something rn).
Don't come at me, Jess Walton fans, I love her to bits, ever since her Kelly Harper days, but in recent decades, Jill has been hardened and de-sexed and JW played her as such.
I do think the actress who plays Hillary has some of that badly-needed sexy energy but honestly it will be wasted on Aunt Jack. I'd be curious to see what it would be like with Nick though.
That was amazing sexytimes music for Y&R! Unfortunately JFP has terrible taste in music, so we always get a generic version of music from, say, 2002. I wish we could bring all that music back from the archives. I also know this will NEVER happen, but if this GLORIOUS spooky background music (go to 7.47) ever comes back, I would cry from happiness.
I'm still trying to decide if the Billy/Phyllis love scene was hot or not... Don't get me wrong, both actors have chemistry, and when Phyllis walked away from him on the stairs to pause for breath (I'd like to think the initiation of her affair with NIck was crossing Phyllis's mind at that point), I really felt the scene. But there were other parts of the scene that felt a bit... mechanical.
I will rewatch again (for science) to see if I get a different viewpoint.