I don't really follow Twitter generally so unless Reality Tea or Tamara Tattles brings it to my attention, I usually miss the big Twitter battles between HWs!
Shannon really needs to take the cray off social media. IrreleGretchen I might agree with her on, but LIzzie was asked to do another season on OC, I heard. She refused to give Tamra the pleasure of going after her on camera after she leaked Lizzie's cell phone number to her followers during the off-season. Instead she became a FOH and has been seen numerous times in the following seasons. I hope we see her again soon this year.
Lizzie does have a legitimate, growing, full-time career -- and prioritises her family -- which is why she didn't take up Bravo's offer to return full-time. Shannon emasculates her whiney-voiced husband on national tour, then proceeds to ruin her daughters' big show along with their thirsty-ass grandma. They totally crapped on their kids' joy.
omg I love Lizzie so much, I can't even tell you. She spoke the truth to Tamra S9 without getting toxic and cruel about it. I love how she slapped Meghan down on Twitter a few months ago when Meghan tried to go after Kelly. I would love her back (and Meghan gone).
Gretchen... I don't want her fake-ass back. At least not with that succubus Slade. As a FOH there to take down Tamra? Absolutely.
I am ready to see Shannon taken down a notch or six and I have a feeling we will see that this season and at Reunion -- by none other than Chrishan Trailer Sue herself!
Speaking of Bethenny -- and I know RHONY is done for the year -- Seasons 2-3 are being repeated where I am. OMG, what a fascinating watch. I can still view most of the episodes like they are new.
It is interesting to watch in light of this latest season of NY where Bethenny is now an uncontrollable ticking bomb. You can see the seeds being sown in S3.
Bethenny going through the mill is really eye-opening. Not that she wasn't a media whore or an opportunist, but Jill tried to kill her career on the show and threatened everybody not to film with B. Seeing Bethenny (in the first half of S3 stuck with only Alex and maybe Ramona as support) transition to a situation where everybody got sick of Jill telling them what to do and stopped filming with her, was such sweet justice. Bethenny was put down and excluded by Jill, Kelly and Luann and, while I will support Luann to the death after the way B came after her this season, I can understand where the hatred comes from on Bethenny's part. The sad part is that 6 years later Bethenny is still fighting that same old battle while Luann has evolved from her uppity Countess days.
Plucky Bethenny from the old days has now evolved into a Jill prototype -- angry, vengeful, surrounded by Yes people. She targets other HWs the way Jill did. After spending Seasons 2 and 3 telling Jill to rein in her jealousy and her mean-girling of the other women, Bethenny is failing to follow her own advice and is doing exactly that. And it is hurting her image.
Somebody mentioned a while back that maybe Jill Zarin should return to the show as she is probably the only one who can check Bethenny. I don't think that is possible tbh. First of all, Bethenny is protected by Andy, Bravo and her EP credit on RHoNY. Andy and Bravo HATE Jill. Secondly, Jill is as toxic and obsessed as Bethenny is. Remember how she turned on poor Alex after Bethenny got successful & pregnant and Jill suddenly got scared about having her as an enemy? Two toxic personalities on the show would not necessarily cancel the other out, it would just create a heavily toxic show (see NY Season 4 or BH Season 4 and 5 with Brandi-Kim).
NY S2-3 was able to balance a lot of humor with the toxicity that lightened things. On Scary Island, for example, Kelly goes off on everybody for 'being mean girls' then tries to march off the yacht into some glass sliding doors. The awkwardness as she wrestles with opening those doors and everybody watching like was hilarious. Kelly btw I am convinced had (has?) serious Narcissistic Personality Disorder coupled with a prescription drug problem coupled with having absolutely no sense of humor or irony. Bad combo.
@Nothin'ButAttitude, @Taoboi: I agree with both of you! Look, imo Tamra is the devil incarnate. She has done so much awful stuff on and offscreen. Naked wasted/pimping her son out. Siccing some crazies on Lizzie in the off-season. Bullying Alexis to the point where it was like watching somebody kick a lame puppy over and over. Truly I wish there was a season where she gets her comeuppance. Season 9 could have been that, but at Reunion I have to give props, Tamra held her own, and it was only Vicki who decimated her with her epic "You look like the most miserable person in the world" speech.
As much as it pains me to admit, Tamra sometimes speaks the truth -- or at least what the audience is thinking. That's why she is so effective in nailing her targets to the wall. Who else thought Alexis was an annoying hypocritical jealous bimbo and her hubby a total misogynist slug? Not only Tamra, surely. Who else was deeply irritated by Gretchen & Slade's fake-ass SLs? Not just Tamra. Who else saw Brooks for the creepy, sleazy con artist he is from the very beginning? Tamra... and pretty much 99% of the viewing audience. When Tamra gets it right, she gets it unfailingly right.
And so it is the case with Kelly. Sure, I loved Kelly putting Shannon Delusional Beador in her place. But Kelly is a shark-eyed opportunist as much as Tamra ever was. She is also a crazy loose cannon who gets drunk on the regular. Tamra READ her in that Twitter rant. Even Tamra knows the kids are off limits and it boomerangs badly on you if you start to target them. Kelly is really... off. There is something kind of dead-eyed about her. Just as Tamra has a big-ass comeuppance due from the other women she has hurt, so too does Kelly need to have people to check her and clip her wings. Otherwise you create an uncontrollable monster -- like Bethenny, or Jill.
omg. I cannot believe I am reading this news. I've been so broken down by YEARS of CBS hiring the purposely wrong writers for this show, by YEARS of CBS trying to turn Y&R into some ABC hybrid, by being told that rehiring KA was a pipe dream we should all forget about... I simple cannot believe my eyes. I can't.
The Reunion finale has already been talked about in depth here; needless to say, the group hug at the end said it all. Everybody went in for it, but Carole was left clinging on Andy's arm in the most awkward way. Like a spoiled child who'd just thrown her toys on the floor, Bethenny pouted with her arms crossed and refused to participate in the hugathon. She was so pissed that Andy (and Dorinda) called her out on her mess.
I believe the rumors that Bethenny is popping Adderall like candy and it is making her aggressive and clouding her judgement about how she is coming across. Luann may not be perfect and god knows Bethenny has always hated Luann and felt looked down by her but... Bethenny's treatment of both Sonja and Luann was beyond the pale this season.
That is an interesting fact I did not know, that Nene's fanbase is more white viewers than black. In some ways, I am not surprised. I guess she plays up the clownish aspect when she is on Fashion Police or 'Brah-way.' Actually, the reason I like her on RHoA (or used to like her) is that her insecurities and feelings of being 'lesser than' were very interesting and real. She was not afraid to show her vulnerabilities sometimes. As you say, when seasons progress, HWs start wanting to control the narrative and presenting only a certain picture of themselves, and IMO that is when the downfall comes. Nene is a case in point; so, too, is Shannon on RHOC. You can smell the bullsh*t a mile away.
I would even say LVP even tho I am such a fan of her. It is obvious that she is instrumental in controlling the image that is put out there of her -- ofc that was bound to happen, she lives in Hollywood after all and has become a reality star. It saddens me a little. I will always love LVP and her fabulousness and whole demeanour, but it will never be like it was during the first two seasons of BH. The HWs are all guarded now and in damage-control mode. IA about her talking heads, however. LVP is witty, urbane and smart and that is a joy to watch.
Remember when Porsha was slim, prim Mary-Sue McBeard4Cash? She is literally advertising her wares here.
And there's that true Christian Southern belle, Phaedra. Those are two hella synthetic outfits on both of them. I hope they don't stand near an open flame.
Speaking of RHoA -- or former Atlantans... saw Kim Zolciak and her kid Brielle on WWHL. I'm going to ignore the dead sheepdog nestling on Kim's head (aka her newest wig) and instead ask WTF did she do to Brielle?? That kid looks nothing like she did a few months ago! She literally turned her into her mini-me -- same ski-jump nose, same over-inflated lips. Can these mothers stop making their underage daughters feel like a trip to the plastic surgeon is the key to a successful life??
Then I watched Fashion Police covering NYFW. Nene is now a regular on that show. My Future BFF Tim Gunn was guesting, he is so fabulous. Nene's new nose does not look as bad as I feared, she still kind of looks like herself, and her nose is not so much Barbiefied as slightly straightened. Guys, she's so not funny though. All she says is "YASS HUNNY YASSSSSSS GURRRRL" *finger snaps.* It sounded like dialogue scripted by a white guy who thinks all black women are big and sassy and 'jive-talk.' I actually cringed at some points. Also when she told Tim Gunn to "STAHP" when he was expressing an opinion she didn't like. Um, TG taught at the Parson's School of Design. How exactly are you a fashion expert?
I will say two nice things: 1., her wig looked nice. It was a blonde bob. It will never be the iconic short blonde 1930s hair, but it was decent. 2. I wish she was back on RHoA. Kandi can't have it all easy all of the time!
Thank goodness Cheap. I was seriously worried there for a minute.
I know what you mean! Heather was like a persnickety dog with a BONE and wouldn't let go when it came to Meaghan and Shannon trying to cover their asses. And I LOVED IT. The fact is that they both knew the situation was fairly serious for Vicki. They didn't care, and spent 7 hours on the golf course and having dinner and bitching about it instead of just getting in the damn car and driving over to see Vicki for 10 mins. BTW, David is a whiney little bitch saying that Vicki could just go and text Brooks if she wanted someone to visit her. Meghan trying to shift the blame on Tamra WHEN SHE WASN'T EVEN THERE was especially hilarious. I mean, obviously Tamra is to blame for most of the world's ills but that was just a lame attempt to distract attention.
I am so ready for Tamra to go in on them next week. Shannon at her kids' rock concert looks like another fake-ass display of forced hilarity, but thankfully her MIL puts paid to that fakery! I do feel bad for Shannon tho. Obvs she is a nagging, needy shrew, but to put the blame of David's affair entirely on her shoulders gives that spineless idiot a free pass. People seem to do that more and more these days when a guy cheats -- oh it must be because his wife was awful! Nobody put a gun to David's head, and he did what he damn well pleased. He's only sorry he got caught.
THANK YOU! This is everything I feel about NJ right now.
And I actually like Kathy and Rosie now, even tho I hate Rich. Kathy actually has a point about Teresa, and I admire her for working diligently and creating a small business for herself and her family. She's a doer, not a talker. I just wish she'd stop complaining about Tre because she has better things to do with her life, and it's not worth begging that branch of the family for acceptance when Teresa always puts her down to build herself up.
I think Bravo feels Teresa carries the show but it is painfully apparent with her return that she cannot. And def agree she has learned zero from being in prison. She has deluded herself that it was a grave injustice that she was sentenced, that she is an eternal victim of the "haters who want to bring me down."
Honestly, letting go of Caroline Manzo in favor of bore-pocrite Dina was a mistake.
YASSS I saw this on Tamara Tattles and was coming over to post the news!
I love Marlo! I think she would be a fab addition as a housewife, not just a FOH. I caught her on that I Dream of Nene spinoff and she was the only thing worth watching on that. She spread fabulosity in every scene. Bless his heart, but Gregg Leakes just does not have the personality to help carry a show.
Ugh Juliet that whiney complainer. She sucks the air out of every room!
I love Caprice too. I've seen her in a bunch of reality stuff, and while obvs she has an image to maintain, she is also pretty self-deprecating and doesn't try to be something she is not. I'd love it if she came back. She can take Annabelle's place (who I will actually miss for drama-stirring purposes).
I'm glad to hear it is coming back, I thought it had been cancelled! I wish it was more closely aligned to the RH franchise as I think that would win the show more fans, but I also understand why the show wanted to preserve a very London brand of uniqueness. LOL is very much unlike the other foreign RH franchises, but it does reflect a certain kind of London perfectly.
Glad Caroline Stanbury will be in it, she is pretty much the tent pole personality of the show. Even tho she was absolutely awful and fake and inauthentic (kinda like Kelly Bensimon in a way!), I hope Caroline Fleming returns so she can be torn to shreds lol.
I forget the name of the needy, try hard brunette who was always kissing up to Caroline Stanbury to the detriment of her longtime friends but it will be interesting if she returns.
I remember when Nene used to be funny and witty but now it is forced and empty. It's especially noticeable on Fashion Police. (Tim Gunn on the same show is just hilarious without even trying).
That said, I wish Nene was on this season of RHoA, and I wish this would be the season she realises she needs to check the attitude. She doesn't need to remind everybody of her importance to the show -- she is already the OG of the Atlanta housewives. Unlike Bethenny, tho, I don't think it is all about deluded arrogance, but about fear/insecurity of being outshone.
Melbourne was awesome this season. Best HW franchise of 2016 imo.