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  1. dc11786 added a post in a topic Loving/The City Discussion Thread   

    Regarding AU in the 1990s, yes, the show reintroduced the college campus with some fanfare in the spring of 1992. The previous year, Fran Sears was EP with Mary Ryan Munisteri as HW when it was announced the show would be reviving the college setting. At some point early in 1992, Addie Walsh took over as HW and was promoting the college storyline claiming that she and her associates had researched modern colleges and the Greek system. As a result, Allie Rescott, who was already on the canvas, attended AU and was involved in sorority life with rich girl Staige Prince (Eden Atwood), the sometimes girlfriend of frat president Kent Winslow (a pre-OLTL Roger Howarth). Staige and Kent were supporting players in the story as all the rest had major ties to the canvas. The men vying for Ally's love were Casey Bowman (Paul Anthony Stewart) and Cooper Alden (Michael Weatherly). Cooper was a scion of the Alden clan, a grandson of Cabot Alden's brother, I think. Cooper was young, entitled, and rich so, of course, Ally like all Rescott women were drawn to him. More sensitive to Ally's ways was Casey Bowman, the son of college professor Giff Bowman (Richard Cox). The previous year Giff had arrived in town and was a source of comfort for Trisha McKenzie (Noelle Beck), after Trucker bedded down with Dinahlee Mayberry (Jessica Collins), who had unsuccessfully seduced Jack Forbes (Christopher Cass). Ally was given a rival in the form of sweet as syrup Hannah Mayberry (Rebecca Gayheart), schemer Dinahlee's 'innocent' baby sister. Hannah was your typical Agnes Nixon ingénue, a naïve, virginal country girl and, like several of the attempts made in the 1990s by Nixon, the character didn't work.
    For whatever reasons, there was struggles behind the scenes. Munisteri left, Addie Walsh came on, Fran Sears left, Haidee Granger came on, Addie Walsh left, there was no headwriter for three or four months, and then Robert Guza and Millee Taggert arrive sometime in the fall of 1992. This makes for a very turbulent year. It was clear some of the stuff Walsh planned was used and some of it was twisted. I wouldn't be surprised if Nixon consulted because there were a lot of minor details from the past that were utilized to jump start stories that were never really referred to or completely developed. In the summer of 1992, the show briefly hinted that Cooper Alden had been the victim of sexual abuse as a child at the hand of his nanny, Selina, but the story was quickly squashed and Cooper claimed he wanted to have sex with her, but he was just so young. When Nixon returned the next year, Cooper admitted to Steffi the truth, Selina had molested him. Also, Coop sought help from Ron Turner, Jr., played by Jeffrey D. Sams. In 1983, a Dr. Ron Turner had treated sexual abuse survivor Lily Slater and PTSD sufferer Mike Donovan. Similarly, in the summer of 1992, Ava returned to Burnell's, a property owned by the Alden family, and was being watched by her mysterious boss who had always had feelings for her. Later, we learned this was Leo Burnell, an old high school classmate, which made no sense. What would have made sense was that the Burnell's boss was Curtis Alden, and I believe the character was even briefly referred to as Mr. C by his associates.
    Anyway, the college stuff didn't last long. In the summer, the show wrote Kent out after he drugged Ally's drink and she crashed her car. Staige stuck around in a more sympathetic role (she lost her money) until the fall. Ally continued to thwart Coop and Hannah's romance, which led to the messy (in a good way) Coop / Ally / Casey / Steffi quad. In November/December 1992, Hannah went to NYC to try out for some piano competition and ended up at her tutor's apartment. Ally brought Coop there and he spotted Hannah and the tutor and assumed the worse. Ally and Coop fell into bed together, and surprise, Ally ended up pregnant. I believe Coop and Hannah may have become engaged in early 1993, but I may be wrong. Anyway, when the truth came out, Hannah and Coop were done. Hannah hung around until June 1993 and had a minor storyline, she stalked her professor, Pine Valley transplant Jeremy Hunter. Jeremy was involved with Stacey Forbes at the time, but, after the Hannah fiasco, Jeremy was paired with Ava and Stacey became involved in a triangle with Gwyn Alden and Buck Huston, Trucker's half-brother. I believe Hannah last appeared when Dinahlee married Curtis Alden before fading from the canvas.
    In Hannah's place was Steffi Brewster (Amelia Heinle), an insecure model with a rough home life. She claimed to come from money, but the family home was empty. Steffi was intended as Coop's main love, but she was also effective with Casey, who developed an eye as a photographer. Self destructive Steffi occasionally found a bound with soulful Coop who had lost many things in his life. Ally and Coop entered a marriage of convenience for a bit, which upset everybody and later Tyler Alden was born.
    Again, the college stories really didn't last long, but this was probably a more effective use, and longer (spring 1992 - summer 1993). By the fall of 1993, Taggert was solo headwriter and things were getting a bit questionable. Gwyn found herself pregnant by Buck and running off to a quickie wedding. The show had invested a good amount of story time in the Curtis / Tess / Buck backstory, but Curtis torched PINS! (Dinahlee's bowling alley) with Louie Slavinski inside and fled town. Tess was a bizarre character, the widow of a Middle Eastern arms dealer who had been saved by pilot Buck Huston and American solider Curtis Alden. When Tess arrived onscreen, she was answering phones in a brothel. By the fall, Tess was involved with Clay Alden, for which I could only hope they were planning on creating a quad with Buck and Gwyn. Nixon quickly cleaned house and reset the show to make 1994 a pretty strong year.  
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  2. dc11786 added a post in a topic Loving/The City Discussion Thread   

    I don’t think the show utilized the university as well as it could have. The pilot movie did a good job dealing with the politics of education with the impact the prostitution ring and the murders had on the campus and the president’s need to get things under control. I think the presidential rivalry between Garth and Roger was doomed though due to the fact Garth was raping Lily and Roger’s ambitions were always bigger than Corinth. The show should have used Garth’s murder to keep Roger in Corinth by Roger’s advisors deciding to wait on backing Roger until things cooled down in his family. By December, 1983, the show was pretty much done with the college campus and started shifting the characters into more business roles. The last college centric story I recall was Doug and Rita Mae’s flirtation while they planned the Faculty Follies.
    Structurally, the different family units were nice, but too compact. There were way too many married couples when the series started. Personally, I would have had Rose Donovan as a single mother, learning to live on her own after the recent death of her husband. Also, I would have Patrick’s death be a catalyst for some of Mike’s emotional issues reemerging: his father, his hero, the cop having died. Instead of Patrick Donovan, I would have Victor Vochek, father of Jim, Noreen, and Merrill, who would work for Alden University as a groundskeeper. Victor would claim he is a widower and would have a C-level romance with Rose. The death of Gina Vochek, Victor’s wife, would be a mystery alluded to, but not dealt with directly, until Rose and Victor became more serious, at which point Victor would reveal that Gina ran off years ago and he didn’t know where she was. Mike would be suspicious and this angle would create tension among members of both families, which I think was desperately needed. Eventually, Victor and Rose would marry and Gina would return to cause conflict.   
    Along the lines of the families, I think I would have also downplayed the Bristows. They could be a recurring feature, but I don’t think I would have brought them on contract. Instead, I would have given Lilly Slater a brother, which I think would have given the Lily story a different beat, and given Lorna someone to play off of.  
    It's amazing how well the show did given everything that happened. In the first six months, there were only two major plotlines: the Ann / Roger / Merrill / Doug and Jack / Lily / Curtis. Most of the other characters were either reacting to one of the two plotlines or involved in short vignettes that didn't really lead to much story (almost everything having to do with Mike Donovan). I think there were some promising stories (Lorna flirting with Doug Donovan, Noreen's work with AIDS patients) but they never went anywhere. In my opinion, the show didn't really blossom until they introduced a duo of schemers: loyal Alden Enterprises employee Dane Hammond and cunning lawyer Shana Sloane, Cabot's illegitimate daughter. Once they arrive, I think the story starts to solidify with the show's first multi-year arc (Dane's pursuit of everything Cabot Alden possesses).
    Of course, with the departure of Lily in January, Merrill in March, and Roger in April, 1984, the show basically threw itself into the Dane / Shana revenge plot which slowly brought in Cabot, Isabelle, Ann, Jack, and Mike and also introduced Harry Sowolsky and Kate and Ava Rescott. The show continued to play a lot of mini arcs (the short lived Lorna / Tony / Stacey triangle) or stories that went nowhere (Warren's much talked about but never seen daughter). Dane's revenge linked the remnants of the show's last two storylines and brought them under one story umbrella. With the strong story in place, the show was finally in place to develop other parts of the canvas with the introduction of rich bitch Gwyn Alden and her teenage daughter, Trisha.
    By this point, the show has pretty much abandoned the college canvas in favor of Alden Enterprises. Curtis Alden, Colby Cantrell, and Lorna Forbes are involved in the work at Burnell's. Gwyn is in charge of the cosmetics company where Keith Lane worked. Dane purchased Forbes Construction which employed Jack Forbes and Ava Rescott. Later, Dane aligned himself with the Beecham brothers in order to get control of AE. Once the business storylines were in place, the show appears to be much stronger.
    I think one of the biggest misfires in the show's early years was trying to make the character of Jonathan Maitlane happen. Initially, Jonathan was introduced as the villain in the Doug / Edy storyline, a B-story at best, which took Doug away from Corinth and sent him to the West Coast where he was developing a TV show and trying to solve a serial killer storyline. The Doug and Edy story came to an end with Edy's death, Doug's departure from the canvas, and Jonathan's death on the bridge, or so we thought. The show kept the actor, John O'Hurley, around in another secondary role, Keith Lane, a chemist working for the Aldens perfume company (Amourelle? or maybe there was another company). I think they chemistry tested Keith with several characters: Lorna, Colby Cantrell, and Gwyn Alden. Jonathan returned while Keith was involved with Gwyn leading to the first of Gwyn's three sexual with a doppleganger for her current lover. This storyline lead to the awful storyline where former prostitute Dolly believed the daughter she was given up for adoption was involved in a kiddie porn ring. Thankfully, someone wrote Dolly and Keith out after Dolly saw her daughter was safe with her adoptive parents.
    I’m also not sure how the Shana / Jim storyline would work. Having seen what “Days of our Lives” did with Eric and Nicole, I can see the kind of angst this type of story could serve with strong actors, which I gather Keith and Davies were, but, on a soap, I think this kind of story ruins a character like Keith’s Shana Sloane. Shana was a woman scorned, abandoned by her father, abandoned by the man she loved. It’s this abandonment that drives her. Her relationship with Dane worked because they were both using each other. Shana’s relationship with Cabot remained a rollercoaster, and Taggert and King were smart to link Jim’s death to Cabot in order to fuel that dynamic, but foolishly wrote Cabot out before any of the fall out could be played. The Shana reset in 1990 never played to its potential because Shana was again domesticated with her marriage to Leo Burnell and the birth of her daughter. I think Shana, like Ava, should have been allowed to suffer a little longer and eventually the two should have crossed paths in a more serious storyline.
    The problem was Marland and Nixon were too different. When Marland leaves, there is a complex business world active in Corinth, which Nixon simply isn't able to maintain. Instead, she emphasizes the emotional aspects of the story and employs some lame twists in order to make them work. For example, Dane Hammond had supported Lorna Forbes' modelling career in return for her shares of her grandfather's company. In the meantime, Lorna was romanced by businessman Linc Beecham, unaware Linc and Dane were plotting to takeover Alden Enterprises. The takeover happened in the final months of Marland's run (early 1985). Instead of continuing the complicated relationship between Linc and Lorna over Linc's business practices we segued into a story involving a meddling mother (Jane Powell's Rebekah Beecham), a secret wife (the Henry Sleasar inspired Zona), a fake pregnancy, and murder trial which results in Linc's departure from Corinth and Lorna's pairing with Zach Conway.
    Similarly, Dane and Ann’s caustic marriage, which has resulted in the return of Ann’s alcoholism, is quickly scuttled and Dane is shipped out of town. Dane and Ann’s marriage had the potential to be a powerful dynamic to the show by enhancing the relationship between Dane / Lorna, Dane / Jack, Dane / Ann, Dane / Cabot, Dane / Shana, Shana /Ann, and Cabot / Ann. Also, before Roger disappeared in the plane crash (his body was never recovered), Roger revealed he had known Shana from his days in Washington. While I think it was perfectly innocent, dropping a returned Roger Forbes into that story would have opened several wounds and created a new ripple in that storyline. Unfortunately, it was a beat never played.
    Dane’s departure was significant because it highlighted the lack of complex male characters on the show. The next character of Dane’s type would probably be Randolph Mantooth’s Clay Alden / Alex Masters. Alex is definitely a credit to Mantooth as the storyline was started Ralph Ellis, had a huge thrust written during the writers strike, before being turned over to Tom King and Millee Taggert. Initially, I think the writing for Jeff Hartman suggested that Jeff could have been a complicated male character who created conflict while also creating a bond with the audience, but from the sounds of it, casting could never get it right. By the time Richard Steinmetz was in the role, Taggert and King had already introduced Steve Sowolsky-lite in the form of Trucker McKenzie and decided Jeff was going to go crazy. What a shame.
    Christopher Marcantel’s Curtis Alden seemed to get some of that sort of writing, but he seemed to be watered down with each recast from playboy racecar driver (Linden Ashby) to heir to the family fortune (Burke Moses). His return in the late 1980s de-ages and whitewashes the character completely. It’s hard to imagine the Curtis Alden of 1983 flirting with Rita Mae while calling himself Jack Forbes would be in competition with Todd Jones over Rocky McKenzie. I think the complex backstory and haunting presence of Perry Stephens may have been put to better use had a writer like Marland stayed. Instead, Jack is pretty much a dud when it comes to Ava’s baby deception and falling for Lilly Slater’s seduction. Also, the absence of both Roger, Dane, and eventually Ann make a lot of that backstory unimportant. I think I would have written in a character who was a brother of Jack’s late mother Linda, who would have toyed with Jack’s moral compass and allowed him to waver between Alden and Henderson. There is no reason Jack Forbes couldn’t have been “Loving’s” answer to Phillip Spaulding.
    Anyway, my main point is I think “Loving” had potential, but the potential was never properly utilized by any of the show’s writers.   
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  3. dc11786 added a post in a topic DAYS: April 2016 Discussion Thread   

    Shawn and Lani slept together in a scene that was cut a week or two ago.
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  4. dc11786 added a post in a topic Lovers and Friends/For Richer For Poorer Discussion Thread   

    Reading an article on Barry leaving "Loving," it says her Isabelle replaced Celeste Holm abruptly in July, 1992, and was written out in January, 1994. The move was storyline dictated. Agnes Nixon had only been there a short while when Barry's Isabelle was axed. She'd bring back Augusta Dabney's Isabelle in the summer of 1994 for the Cradle Foundation storyline. 
    I disagree with Barry's assessment of Viola. While she was a survivor, she was intended to be a character of a certain stature who would have followed certain rules. Viola would have married a man she hated to support her family, but I don't think she would have operated her own business. How would that have appeared? 
    Anyway, I think Barry won in the end. Didn't Viola open up a second-hand store or something along those lines with Josie Saxton. Or am I confusing my 1970s NBC soaps?
    Since we are talking "Loving" and "For Richer, For Poorer," I wonder if Millee Taggert wrote for FR,FP or if Tom King consulted with Taggert in her 1992-1993 run. The Brewsters of Corinth are basically a carbon copy of the Brewsters of Point Claire. Both were mother-daughter duos who had been rich, but lost there money with the mothers encouraging their daughters to marry wealthy men. The mother figure was even absent in the early months and had heart problems. 
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  5. dc11786 added a post in a topic Cancelled Soaps Cast Lists   

    I was looking through the Remembering Woodbridge article and am starting to question things. The RW article states that the Casey Arnold drug plot and the Hope Ames plot occur at the same time. Pamela Raymond definitely played Hope in 1965 and 1966 and the papers make it clear that John Colicos appeared in the spring of 1966 through June 1966 as Matthew Devereaux. If Casey is part of the drug plot that involves Hope Ames, this would all play out prior to the 1966 episode that features Hope. So maybe 1965/1966 is right for Casey and the date on the Jimmy Dobbs episode is wrong? Or maybe Genovese confused the plots?

    Also, Coster appeared as Paul Britton in 1963. I found an article from December, 1963, stating friends have noticed him appearing in episodes. Paul was probably introduced in the fall when Amy went to college and the Averys arrived.

    Regarding Nina DiFrancisco, the RW article attributes the story to the Averys so I may be wrong about the dates on Nina, but the character did appear in 1962 so maybe she was on 1962-1963? Which would then allow Paul and Amy to get together late 1963/early 1964 while Kip was in prison and for Kip to pop up to marry Amy in 1964. Again, just trying to work out the logistics.
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  6. dc11786 added a post in a topic Cancelled Soaps Cast Lists   

    Pamela Raymond appeared as Hope Crandall Ames no later than fall 1965. She was announced as part of the cast of the revamp of “Flame in the Wind,” “A Time for Us,” but by fall she is credited in newspapers for appearing on “Storm.” So Raymond was on STORM from at least 1965-1966.

    Casey Arnold appeared in the February, 1967 episode of STORM that saynotoursoap posted. So Arnold should be probably 1966-1967

    Robert Fitzsimmons Frank Bennett is referred to in the February 1960 episode on youtube. So I would say 1960 definitely, but more likely 1959-1960.

    Do you remember where you found the illegal abortion information about Barbara Bradford, Liza Chapman’s character?

    I believe Canadace Coster played the role as long as Nicolas Coster was in the role so that would 1968-1969
    Ira Bromfield was Kevin’s surgeon so that would have been 1973/1974

    The article recently posted suggests that Lovelady Powell’s Birdie appeared well into 1971 after Hugh and Jill were killed off.

    Just found a TV Questions column stating Peter MacLean first appeared as Hugh on November 22, 1969. He and Jill were killed off before Christmas, 1970.

    Judi Rollin appeared as Didi Clayborne until July, 1971. I believe that was posted in SS thread. Plus, the Remembering Woodbridge article describes the custody case between Didi and the Stevenses after her father’s death, which occurred in late 1970.

    Jeffrey Lynn premiered as Charlie Clemons in November 1967. I believe the exact date is in the SS thread. He appeared through at least October, 1968 because he can be heard in the Joan Crawford episode.

    You have Evelyn and Julian Dark appearing in 1968. The Remembering Woodbridge article places them in the early 1960s. Julian would appear at least 1963-1964 and Evelyn most likely 1964 at least.

    John Colicos played Matthew Devereaux in 1966. The character was written out in June 1966. The actor left, but there had been talk of continuing the character prior to his decision to leave. The announcement appeared in the papers that Colicos had joined the show in early April. Since he was tied to Hope’s story, he probably only appeared in the spring and early summer. Carol Devereaux appeared at the end of his run.

    Goldensoaps lists Cal Bellini playing Eduardo Degamma in 1962-1963 and Joseph Della Sorte in 1963. The character arrived in Woodbridge in April, 1962. He returned with Pauline after Haila Stoddard had been off the show for almost a year. In December 1962, CBS claimed no one was playing the roles of Degama or Nina DiFrancisco. So Bellini either came back or the 1963 date is wrong.

    I wonder if Nina was killed off in 1962 as David O’Brien premiered as Kip in March, 1963. In terms of the story, it sounds like Kip was offscreen for Nina’s murder which would suggest at least

    Goldensoaps has Barnard Hughes as appearing in 1960 as Reverend Farrell. I believe the source is a TV reference book.

    You have J Fluellen Lawrence as appearing in 1967/1968. Christina Crawford joined STORM in April, 1968. The infidelity suit didn’t occur until the summer of 1968 and played out in the October 1968 episode on youtube. I wouldn’t list 1967, just 1968.

    Someone appeared as Bryan Fuller in 1960. He is still a sore subject of conversation in August 1960.
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  7. dc11786 added a post in a topic The Doctors   


    Jane Badler first appeared as Natalie in June or July 1981. I know her picture appears in one of the July 1981 SODs.
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  8. dc11786 added a post in a topic "Secret Storm" memories.   

    This was written by John Kelly Genovese, a soap historian. I've never heard of the publication "The Soap Box," that this was published in.

    I'm so happy he devoted a whole section to the Avery years.
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  9. dc11786 added a post in a topic Paradise Bay (1965-1966)   

    It's a shame saynotoursoap's material is gone. The episode he posted was from February 1966.

    Keith Andes' final episode was Friday, April 6, 1966. He left when the show's original headwriters quit. The character of Jeff was shipped off to Africa. In the final episodes, Mary announced Jeff would be returning.
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  10. dc11786 added a post in a topic Cancelled Soaps Cast Lists   

    Frances Fuller played Alice Perkins on "Flame in the Wind." Alice was the mother of Flora Perkins. Fuller was president of one of th eacting guilds at the time and was working with the president of daytime programming at ABC, Leonard Goldberg, to recruit young talent for daytime. I'm sure I butchered a bunch of titles and positions.

    I don't think Fuller was on "Time for Us," but the last mention I have of her character's daughter, Flora, is in April. Neither Fuller nor Brooks are listed among those appearing in the revamp.
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  11. dc11786 added a post in a topic Cancelled Soaps Cast Lists   

    Do you know where you got this information? I know a lot of TV listings often confused actors on TV shows. I've seen an article that lists a full week of synopses for "A Time for Us" as occurring on "A

    The premier of "High Hopes" is available for viewing at the Paley Center in New York. I saw it nearly 15 years ago. I don't remember Prinz being in the opening episode unless she was featured in the segment on Trudy Bowen's talk show. Is it possible she appeared later on?

    Jackie Bertell played a second role on the show when it was a soap. Do you have that role?

    Dr. Paul Popenoe appeared on the November 15, 1965 episode of "Paradise Bay." In the story, Barbara Pulaski, a high school teacher, was attempting to teach a sex education course at the high school. She met resistance from various members of the community, who wanted their children to boycott the sex class. Pulaski was supported by Jeff Morgan, the owner of the local radio station. Jeff brought Popenoe onto his station to address the town about the issue.

    Regarding the sex education story, it was the story that immediately followed the Sally Baxter murder trial and was actually born out of it. In one article, I read Sally underwent an abortion in Mexico before she died. While Duke Spalding was accused, it was later revealed that another male character did it. I suspect he might have been the father of Sally's child. Anyway, this all seems to be the impetus for Barbara's push to bring sex education in schools as she knew information about Sally's death.

    Leora Dana as Viola has always interested me as I've only seen in listed in Soap World. I suspect she appeared in only a couple episodes in April/May 1977. The synopses for the final weeks have Laurie fielding a phone call from her mother stating she was returning to Point Claire.

    Chris Gifford was a doctor. He arrived in August or September 1978.

    Marlowe appeared on "Lovers & Friends" in 1977. I don't think he made the transition. He was the Cushings' butler.

    Barbara Manners was divorced. Phillip played in 1977. MacLaren in 1978.
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  12. dc11786 added a post in a topic Flame in the Wind/A Time For Us   

    Thanks. I guess I was wrong about Ettlinger being the only headwriter. Since then, I've read that Raphael Hayes wrote the shows opening episodes. After reading the detailed history of "The Young Marrieds" from a wonderful poster on this board, I wonder if Hayes had the same problem that Elward had with scripting and Hardy brought in Ettlinger because they worked together on "Love of Life."

    Ettlinger's arrival in January would explain why the story begins to shift in the months to come. A lot of the initial story seems to revolve around Craig Reynolds and the publishing. Craig is in an important position at the publishing company, married to the daughter of the company's owner, in love with one of the company's authors (Kate), and the object of affection of one of his colleagues (Flora). When Craig departs in February after conflict with Ted Alcourt, who is described as a narcissist in an early press release, a lot of this seems to fall apart and shift in other directions.

    I wonder if Ettlinger added crazy Liz Grey to the story. Liz doesn't appear in the story until March, but Tony receives a phone call from the hospital in February which probably indicated the direction the Tony/Kate romance was heading. Also, in the show's initial press releases, it indicated that Kate would be caught up in a defamation suit because of her book, which would certainly impact her relationship with lawyer Tony Grey. I wonder if this played out or if the story was scrapped when Rafael Hayes left the show.

    Some other random tidbits...

    - Hebert Bayard Swopes, III, Maggie Hayes' real life son, appeared on the show in 1966 in a running role. This role was announced in April, 1966.

    - One of the articles Carl posted on ATWT mentioned Jenny O'Hara previously played Susan Michaels. This seems to coincide with most of the press from the 1960s and 1970s. O'Hara said she did a year on the show so Susan appeared into 1966.

    - In a TV Guide article about the show, Doug Colton's ex-wife was said to be named Evelyn and that she was set to appear on the show in the future. Based on the article we have from Carl, we know "Evelyn" appeared onscreen. I think Evelyn may in fact have been Jenny O'Hara's Susan Michaels, but I'm not sure.

    - I think the episode that saynotoursoap had posted aired September 23, 1965. The episode synopsis for that day reads: "Dave acts out of desperation." The September 22nd preview reads: "Steve learns shattering news." This is followed by September 24: "Steve makes an irrevocable decision." This would seem to fall in line with what happened in the episode. In the episode previously online, Steve has already learned from Jason Farrell about the pregnancy. Steve still seemed to be unsure what he should be doing, which would line up with him deciding in the next episode. Because of Jane's decision to go to Europe to have her baby, Dave decides, out of desperation, to ask her to marry him. This would set into motion the events leading up to October. It would appear that Jane initially says yes to Dave, but then Steve is forced to tell his friend that Jane is pregnant with his (Steve's) child only for Steve and Jane to marry at the end of October/early November. In November, Jane and Steve honeymoon in Bermuda.

    - Most of the information we have on this series comes from Wesley Hyatt's book on daytime programming. For the "A Time for Us" entry, he used the information in TV Guide. TV Guide had daily descriptions for many of the NBC/ABC programs in 1965. Also, there is a rather descriptive article on the show in an October 1965 edition. It covers Roxanne Reynolds' dinner party, which actually occured in July 1965. The dinner party was suppose to launch "at least a year's worth" of stories according to Joe Hardy. With that said, Hardy outlines a lot of what is to come in the next year, but until we see more information it should be noted that we don't know for sure what happened. The article outlines the return of Craig Reynolds, Miriam Bentley pushing her pal Roxanne to pair off with Doug, Doug's problems with his ex-wife Evelyn, Doug and Roxanne's marriage plans, and the idea that ultimately Craig and Roxanne would get back together. I haven't seen many November/December synopses for "Time for Us" so they might actually reveal more of the story.
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  13. dc11786 added a post in a topic Somerset Discussion Thread   

    I was reading the SOD synopses of the show's final months. When David Grant returned in the form of Phillip MacHale in the summer of 1976, David mentions that Lyling has run off with the baby and they are in China. So I think its safe to say that Bridgett Duffy's David is David and Lyling's child.
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  14. dc11786 added a post in a topic Loving/The City Discussion Thread   

    I imagine the untold story behind "Loving" was more interesting than most of what appeared onscreen.

    I don't doubt Geraldine Court was told they wanted to go with an unknown, but it seems like there was a lot of butting heads backstage between Marland and Nixon. Given how little Ann had in the beginning, I could understand why they would want to invest money elsewhere. One would have to assume had the Merrill - Roger story continued that Ann would have had to gain some prominence in the story.

    Court probably lucked out given the rocky beginning years, but I think she would have solid opposite Shana Keith and Anthony Herrera once Ann's story really kicked off.
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  15. dc11786 added a post in a topic Another World   

    Marcella Martin's character Flo was involved in Missy's Chicago storyline. I believe she killed Danny Fargo. Her sister was Madge, played by Doris Belack.
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