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  1. dc11786 added a post in a topic Search For Tomorrow Discussion Thread   

    I know this isn't always the most popular opinion, but I really like what I've seen of "Search for Tomorrow" 1985 more so than 1986. Here's a couple of partial episodes featuring the Women to Watch Gala at the Henderson Country Club. Also featured in this clip is the murder of Sarah Whiting, Jo's adopted granddaughter. Michelle Joyner isn't listed in many of the soap books for her role as Sarah, but I found her very different and earthy during the Paul Avila Mayer / Stephanie Braxton episodes. Sarah may have been the first bland ingénue Gary Tomlin decided would make a better vixen, but I preferred shy, insecure Sarah pining for dreamer Quinn much more entertaining than schemer Sarah trying to outdo Wendy Wilkins (could Jo's granddaughter really outscheme Stephanie's daughter?) for Quinn.
     
    Also, featured heavily in the sequence is the arrival in Henderson of THE Woman to Watch, Estelle Kendall. I love Blythe in the role that was clearly intended to be a poor man's Alexis Carrington. Blythe is fun; I just wish she got to do more with the heavy hitters.
     
    Anywhere, here, from November, 1985:
     
     
     
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  2. dc11786 added a post in a topic 1955 article on NBC's daytime dramas   

    I had seen it years ago on WoST.
     
    It's funny. I've seen very little of Lori March except in her lesser known roles: villainess Jennifer on Three Steps, T.J.'s flighty mother on Texas, and the weak minded woman who Diane Seeley mesmerized during the DOMI storyline on "Another Life." I think I've only seen the 1965 episode of her as Valerie on "The Secret Storm."
     
    I haven't, but I'll pop over.
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  3. dc11786 added a post in a topic 1955 article on NBC's daytime dramas   

    No, this isn't one of the ones at the Paley Center, unless they've gained more material in the past fifteen years. WoST had this episode on their site at one point. It didn't have a specific date. This was early in the show's run (the second month), while the Paley episodes are most likely from December, 1954 as they follow the story leading up to the conclusion.
     
    Bill, Poco, and Jennifer all manage to stick around, but Lori March is the only one with any longevity. She appears in the final moment in the story; Jennifer kisses Bill just as the story comes to a close. Lauren Gilbert steps out of character to tell us that Bill and Poco will reunite, but not after some hardships.
     
    The opening also manages to get an update. In 1954, the show uses a black and white sketch of a building rather than the cityscape you see in 1953.
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  4. dc11786 added a post in a topic Cancelled Soaps Cast Lists   

    Bernard Barrows played Henry McGill the university president. According to the "Secret Storm" summary republished last summer, Henry had a troubled relationship with his son, who I believe was involved with Wendy Porter. His son's name escapes me at the moment, but I know it's in the WeLoveSoaps reprint.
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  5. dc11786 added a post in a topic From These Roots   

    Florence Freeman was also the star of "Wendy Warren and the News," which was created and originally written by Frank Provo and John Pickard. "Wendy Warren" was cancelled in November, 1958. I think Provo and Pickard were helping out Freeman.
     
    Barbara Dana played Margo, who was becoming involved with Jerry (John Karlen) and was connected to Aunt Mildred Fraser (Violet Heming).
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  6. dc11786 added a post in a topic Generations Discussion Thread   

    The show was definitely playing with the idea, weren't they? I've read Mary Gardner was traipsing around Chicago telling anyone that would listen about the "inappropriate" living situation. Of course, this was before the woman was jumping out of airplanes dressed as a nun with a moosehead full of diamonds. Structurally, I don't see the show pushing Sam / Rob as a longterm couple, but I could see how a Jason / Sam / Rob / Jessica story would produce a lot of in character drama based on the history of the characters. In the beginning, Sam is clearly lacking a longterm love interest until Kyle arrived in early 1990.
     
    Also, Doreen and Adam didn't appear to be intended as one of those long term couples, but rather a bump in the road that would produce drama for years between the Jacksons and the Marshalls. I could see where the show might play the line of Adam and Sam as friends who become more if the audience pushed for it. And, in all honesty, both characters were complicated enough where this could have been played out for years. Adam didn't receive his longterm love interest Maya until 1990.
     
     
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  7. dc11786 added a post in a topic Where the Heart Is 1969-1973   

    I've really enjoyed this material.
     
    Vicky Hathaway's breakdown is delicious. Because it was audio only, I forgot that Vicky was still faking paralysis at this point in the story. I was pleasantly surprised that it seems Joe Prescott is given the heavy lifting admonishing Vicky for her deceitfulness, but I guess it might have been a bit hypocritical from it to come from any of the Hathaways. Milan delivers some of those lines with such venom ("Or was it your big idea, Kate.") and then her begging Michael to protect her is so powerful and raw. And then when she comes for Julian ("I tried to tell you! Why didn't you listen?!" was just so heartbreaking. I wonder if they played out Vicky's accusation (Michael was the baby's father) as I could see that slowly destroying Julian's mentally, but it would have also been the perfect motivation for Julian allowing Michael to marry Liz.
     
    The scene between Ed and Vicky was equally powerful. I would have loved to see Ed's physical reaction to the fact that his daughter was completely insane.  
     
    I also found the scenes between Steve Prescott and his mother surprising. Nan was much more developed than I expected her to be, but I think Joe and Nan represented the good wholesome parental figures that were typical the center of the show rather than on the fringes as the in-laws, or this case future in-laws. I did appreciate that Joe Prescott was the family doctor and Ben Jessup, Allison's father-in-law, was the old law partner of the late Daniel Hathaway. It keeps the story tighter and gives the characters history.
     
    I have no clue how Jack Blaine or the Connie character fit into this. Initially, Steve Prescott was in Northcross to get the land that Daniel Hathaway gave away in the will to Kate. Steve was trying to procure the land for Arthur Saxton, the shady real estate developer. I thought it was Arthur who was after Steve when he had amnesia in late 1970/early 1971. I guess I was wrong. Anyway, I was surprised how quickly the story moves. Ellie is killed in May and by June Steve and Kate have married and the Jardin sisters arrive in Northcross to take Peter Jardin.
     
    I'm hoping more of this pops up. It has been a real treat.
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  8. dc11786 added a post in a topic Loving/The City Discussion Thread   

    Larry Atlas' Jules was involved in Steve / Trisha's Quebec adventure.
    In late 1985, Steve Sowolsky had been accused of sleeping with underage Cece Thompson by Cece's father, which led to Steve's stint in prison. In prison, Steve encounter Spider, who ended up being tied to Hunter Beldon, the wealthy playboy who ran drugs and paid for the services of Dolly Lane. Spider kept threatening to get out and to get Trisha so when provided the opportunity to escape, Steve left prison, grabbed Trisha, and they ended up on the run together. When they ended up in Quebec, Jules was a man who asked a lot of questions about the couple. Initially, Jules seemed like he was part of the drug connection which involved a bunch of unmemorable minor characters, but eventually Jules revealed he was investigating the drug ring. Jules did have a bit of an infatuation with Trisha, he kissed her in her sleep, because she bore a resemblance to his dead wife. When Hunter wanted the couple killed, Spider went to Quebec, tracked them down, and shot Trisha, who ended up in near death in a hospital. Steve called Corinth to reveal where they were. Steve was arrested and Jules seems to disappear from the SOD synopses from that time.
     
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  9. dc11786 added a post in a topic Where the Heart Is 1969-1973   

    Vicky Lucas Hathaway in all her crazy glory. Audio only.
     
    March 1971: Vicky pushes Mary down a flight of stairs.
    March 31, 1971: The Hathaways gather to for Vicky's confession.
     
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  10. dc11786 added a post in a topic The Catlins   

    A 1983 promo featuring Nancy Kennedy as Jennifer Catlin, Richard Fagan as Powell Jackson, Fred Covington as Gary Hopkins, J. Don Ferguson as T.J. Catlin, and Jerry Homan as Jonathan Catlin. The person who uploaded has other TBS videos dated July 25, 1983, which this preview is probably from.
     
    I'll have to review my notes, but I believe Powell Jackson was Jennifer's psychiatrist, and clearly not all there himself. I think it's possible that Richard Fagan makes Charity Rhamer and Troy Kurtis look subtle. In the July 1983 episode previously uploaded, Jennifer was on trial so I wonder if this is the resolution to the mystery. Maybe Powell is in fact Robert Goode's killer?
     
    Covington let his hair gray by April, 1984. I've been meaning to comment on the other episodes I received, but I've fallen behind. Maybe I'll try later tonight.
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  11. dc11786 added a post in a topic Generations Discussion Thread   

    If I remember correctly, this scene aired in either late August / early September 1990. Eric Royale (Randy Brooks) was still on trial for the murder of a homeless woman he had run over with his car. Chantal Marshall (Debbi Morgan) was the prosecuting attorney during the case. Chantal believed Eric was guilty; just another celebrity using his fame to get away with a crime. I think this was the turning point in Chantal and Eric's relationship. Chantal had gone to the bar to cool off after the stressful trial, and a group of men started bothering her because of her involvement in the case. They were angry because she was going after Eric Royale, football star. Eric showed up and saved Chantal from the men.
    Shortly after, Chantal proved that Eric wasn't at fault; he had drank cough syrup before driving which had mimicked the symptoms of drinking and driving. Eric was still convicted to lesser charges and sent to prison with Sean Masters, Kyle Masters' kid brother. Sean and Eric were involved in taking down a drug ring in prison, which led to Eric's release from prison. When Eric was released, Eric and Chantal pursued a relationship.
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  12. dc11786 added a post in a topic The Catlins   

    The first episode of the eight I received is from March, 1984. Based on the previews, it appears to be Monday, March 5. The show has already switched over to the opening sequence that doesn't feature the main family pictures.
     
    Anyway, the show features 3 storylines, which appears fairly typical for all the episode I've seen. In this episode, there is (1) a crisis at the hospital that Matt Catlin reacts to, (2) Dirk Stack and Cullen Quinn reacting to Cullen's arrest and release due to their drug operation, and (3) T.J. Catlin's proclamation to his daughter, Maggie Catlin, that he plans on selling the Catlin sawmill.
     
    The least exciting story involves Matt Catlin. He is featured in a well decorated office space speaking to the chief of staff, Henry, about mundane things like the hospital coffee when Diane, a hysterical woman, comes flying in proclaiming "Craig is dead!' like we are suppose to know or care about Craig. Anyway, the thread picks up with Diane and Matt discussing Craig, now dead, who has been Matt's patient and golf buddy. Apparently, Craig broke his ankle and arrived at the ER just at the same time a bus load of school children arrived after a bus accident (I kid you not). Anyway, the ER is mess, Diane is hysterical, and Craig wakes up, walks around, undoes all his stitches, and bleeds to death. They end up sending Diane to a spare room (thankfully), but she ends up returning to cry on Matt's shoulder. This whole ordeal seems to pivot on the axis that the head of the ER is irresponsible and Henry, the chief of staff, asks Matt to consider running the ER because Matt is a gifted surgeon and independently wealthy. St. Elsewhere, this isn't, but the show does have Matt stand on his soap box and deliver a nice little (but possibly over the top) monologue about the importance of emergency services and why they are so important to the live saving system.
     
    Not sure who was still around, but this might have been more effective if say Crissy Catlin rushed in because something happened to Bobby, the son she shared with Matt, that required him to be in the ER. Then, Crissy's whining about Matt's absence would have been more reasonable, while Crissy could capitalize on the situation to reconnect with Matt. Plus, I loved Candy Howard's Crissy, but I suspect she was given the boat fairly early on. In a June, 1983 article from the Atlanta Constitution, Howard received some criticism because she didn't sound like she was from the South.
     
    Anyway, there is no resolution to this story in the previews, and it is the only that doesn't pick up in the next installment.
     
    In the second story, Cullen Quinn is at his interestingly designed penthouse. I believe it's featured in the Christmas, 1984 episode available online. Anyway, Cullen answers the door for Dirk Stack, who has been working for the Catlin family for several months (as we will learn in the next scene). In all the previous episodes I've seen, Dirk was an ally to the Catlins, so I was initially thrown for a loop, but this story starts to change my perception of Dirk. Anyway, Dirk and Cullen play catch up; Cullen has been arrested because of their drug operation, but was released by Medger Quinn (Cullen's daddy) on bond. Cullen and Dirk attempt to figure out who snitched, but cannot figure it out. The only loose end seems to be a truck driver delivering the load.
     
    In terms of establishing character timelines, Cullen mentions Truck Larson, his henchman for all of 1984, and, I believe, into 1985. Dirk mentions Bryce Draper, Medgar's lawyer who is credited in the July, 1983, episode featured online. In the previews for March 6, Bryce appears at Cullen's place to discuss legal matters. I have no clue if the same actor is playing the part.
     
    Dirk's involvement with Quinns kind of spins everything that comes after this. I now see Dirk as more of a Roger Thorpe type, a man determined to make something for himself and use people in the process. Dirk's romance with Maggie Catlin seems to be the complication in his desire to achieve happiness. Maggie is smart, and, I suspect, initially, Dirk dated Maggie to keep an eye on her, but it is clear that by December, 1984, Dirk has fallen for her and lost her because of what he has done. The drug storyline, and the fall out, plays out throughout 1984 and probably into 1985. I didn't expect the show to have long term ramifcations like that.
     
    Our final plotline plays off the drug storyline, as we will see. T.J. Catlin arrives at his office looking for the financial figures regarding the different divisions of Catlin Enterprises. Looking for liquid capital, T.J. wants to sell any division that is in the red, including the Catlin family saw mill. Maggie is mortified by T.J.'s decision claiming this was the start of the family's fortune. T.J. claims she is sentimental, and Maggie claims he has been blind to everything but the international division since Dirk arrived. T.J. admits he is impressed with Dirk's work in the international division, but he is simply tired of paying the payroll for the mill out of his pocket.
     
    The characterization of T.J. in this episode is like nothing I've seen after. He's cold, aggressive, and driven by money. In the later episodes, T.J. is more human, more flawed. He owned his mistakes and seemed determine to make good with his family. I'm curious about when the change occurs.
     
    An upset Maggie dines with Dirk at the country club where she goes into her long monologue about the importance of the mill to her and her family. It's a really well done piece explaining how Maggie and the boys played there as children, and how Maggie learned to respect the men who worked for the mill. Maggie talks about how Catherine ran the mill after the death of Catherine's husband, Gus. The conflict over the mill works well because both characters have sufficient reason for feeling the way they do. This story continues into the next episode where Matt tells Maggie she needs to inform their grandmother Catherine, at present in Alaska, before returning to learn the mill has been sold.
     
    During Maggie's monologue, she states, "the boys, Matt, Jonathan, and James" and later worries about "James, who still work there." It isn't clear whether James is another Catlin brother, or possibly Beau's birth name, or James O'Neil, the character who is listed in the November 1984 episode. Anyway, in terms of establishing timeline, Dirk Stack has been in charge of the international division for 3 months, which means Dirk probably entered the story around October / November, 1983. He was definitely involved in the story set Catalan, which took place in November / December 1983. It's possible Dirk's been around longer, but this definitely secures his position in the story in late 1983.
     
    Overall, not my favorite episode, but there were definitely some strong moments No cast is credited, but the credits are still run over a picture of the Catlin mansion. Empire Media is listed as the production company still, not Proctor & Gamble.
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  13. dc11786 added a post in a topic The Catlins   

    I've never figured out how to upload to youtube, but I'll see if I can figure it out eventually.
     
    These are the character descriptions used in the press photos for the show at the time of the premier. Most interesting is the inclusion of Kent Whipple's Roger Brown, who is never listed in any of the books. Roger's description talks about his marriage, but there is no Mrs. Brown in the cast. I think Roger may have been married to Maggie Catlin as one episode I have mentions that Woody became involved with Maggie on the heels of her divorce. Of course, I could be wrong.
     
    Catherine Catlin (Mary Nell Santacroce), matriarch of the Catlin empire; T.J. Catlin (J. Don Ferguson), pragmatic, visionary Chairman of the Board of the Catlin’s financial empire; Annabelle Catlin (Muriel Moore), T.J.’s emotionally fragile wife; Matthew Catlin (Dan Albright), brilliant surgeon, overly cautious in romance.
     
    Maggie Catlin (Victoria Loving), superficially cold, inwardly frustrated; Jonathan Catlin (Jerry Homan), middle Catlin son desperate to prove himself; Beau Catlin (Larry Jordan), proverbial black-sheep of the family; Eleanor Catlin (Marilyn Martin), Jonathan’s neglected artistic wife.
     
    Roger Brown (Kent Whipple), successful attorney, his marriage is a merger, not a romance; Seth Quinn (Brett Rice), burdened by his family responsibilities; Medgar Quinn (Danny Nelson), Chairman of the Board of South Coastal Bank, and personal and business adversary of the Catlins; Jennifer Catlin (Nancy Kennedy), beautiful and naïve, youngest daughter with con man Robert Goode (Dirk Randall).
     
     
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  14. dc11786 added a post in a topic The Catlins   

    Receives some episodes/material in the mail regarding this one so more information will be forthcoming...
     
    Mark Dember played Alex, the bad boyfriend, according to one article. The article was from the summer of 1984. I think he may have been Jennifer Catlins' Parisian boyfriend.
     
    The Machiste/Joseph High Otter scenes that were previously online were from 1985. Machiste is credited in a February/March 1985 episode I received.
     
    Dan Albright (Matt Catlin) and Marion Guyot (Faith Braxton) are still married in real life. Benji Wilhoite, a child actor who probably played Marion Guyot's son or kid brother, has since died. However, when on the show, he appeared in a Labor Day Parade with several of the cast members. At the end of the parade, he was lost and given comfort by Coretta Scott King. Later, Benji would befriend Jarrett Beal, an actor who appeared on "The Catlins" in 1985 as Montgomery "MG" O'Neil. Beal appears to be the son of Alveda King, Martin Luther King, Jr.'s niece.
     
    Sam Smiley, the show's head writer for several months in spring/early summer 1983, talked about having conflict with the producers over storytelling. Smiley wanted to tell stories about "the inner human potential of the stories" and the "emotional or touching areas" while the producers preferred "melodrama and to make flashy things happen fast." In another article, C.T. McIntyre is on the spot writing the scripts which include the scenes where Lauren Woodard learns she is pregnant after firing the writers. So this means Smiley was probably in the credits until June/ early July.
     
    C.T. McIntyre was a very hands on producer when it came to writing. He was dictating a lot of the story and the headwriters were expecting to plot the day to day out. When things didn't go his way, he would rewrite them.
     
    Lucille Crowe was played by Jane Berman. Her character seems pretty substantial to the show's last year drifting from her own major summer storyline, to a thwarted romance with T.J. in the fall, and into a potentially more dynamic role in the Quinn family in the winter of 1985.
     
    Didi Lanier arrived onscreen as Fayrene Bishop in May, 1984. Her son, John (Lapides? Lanier?), appeared on the show in 1984 as Quinn Catlin, the infant daughter of Jonathan and Eleanor Catlin. In the spring of 1983, Christina Reguli's (Lauren) daughter, Jessica Reguli, appeared as Stephanie Catlin, Jonathan and Eleanor's daughter. Tommy Hill's Bobby Catlin was actually the 13-year-old son of Matthew and Crissy Catlin.
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  15. dc11786 added a post in a topic Flame in the Wind/A Time For Us   

    Herbert Bayard Swopes, III, Maggie Hayes' son, appeared on the show c. spring 1966. He was only 17 years old at the time.
     
    Jane Reynolds died in the Monday, November 28, 1966, episode. The previous Friday, Jane was driving to meet with her husband, Steve Reynolds, when a bout of blindness caused her to crash the car. On Monday, Jane succumbed to injuries sustained in the accident surrounded by her husband and her son, Mark. In the final moments of the episode, Steve shared the news with his in-laws, Al and Martha Driscoll. Jane is treated by Dave Simon, Steve's friend who loved Jane deeply. Before Steve arrives, Jane and Dave have a very tender conversation in which Jane thanks Dave for loving her and admits, while not in love with Dave, her love for him was something that was very special to her. It was a very different scene than what I was use to.
     
    Surprisingly absent from the November, 1966, episode is Linda Driscoll, Jane's sister and longtime rival for Steve's affection. Linda seems to be off the canvas by this point as Jane begs Steve to look after her parents after her death because "they have no one." I guess Josephine Nichols' Louise Austen, Martha's mother, may have also have been written out by this point. Morgan Sterne's Dr. Stan Eastman is mentioned, but not seen.
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